“kind of hilarious that you can be cooler and less pretentious than most of your peers, be aged 21, and it all seems as natural as rolling out of bed for you. must be sweet.”

*the above statement is clearly one of jealousy and/or resentment for a person that has achieved at least some level of literary success

Another argument, which I’ve heard incredibly often, is how “idiotic” writers like Zach and Tao are because they are so-called “hipsters” and have submitted to a subcultural lifestyle in which they present multiple signifiers representative of the Hipster subculture. I spoke with Jeffree Williams last week, one of the editors of the Norton Anthology of Theory and Criticism, and we discussed electronic literature briefly. He believes certain collectives of online writers will one day be classified as something other than what they currently consider themselves, only because of mankind’s desperate need to “discover” something and “label” it. To build off of Dr. Williams’ ideas, and to speak on behalf of the future, I feel writers like Zach and Tao will later be recognized as something other than “Hipster,” but for right now, they’ll be commonly recognized as Hipsters because many Hipster youths currently emulate them–in their writing, in their behavior, etc.

In terms of subculture, how subcultural IS someone like Zach? Or Tao? Especially if they’re doing something different [aesthetically]. If anyone is lacking awareness of individuality or even personal identification, is it not those that try to be everything like Tao or Zach? Try to write like them–behave like them–and yet, aren’t actually even acknowledged by Tao or Zach?

It’s a cliche, but it’s the simplest example I can come up with:

1.
Ginsberg was cool. Referred to as Beat or Beat poet. Part of a literary movement.

2.
Later, mainstream media recognizes Beat culture as “hip” and “fashionable.” Teenagers want to look and dress like “Beats.” Teenagers purchase lots of black clothes. Teenagers purchase bongos. Teenagers gather in each others’ basements–smoke some reefer–play some bongos–write shitty poetry and cry about it. These teenagers refer to themselves as “Beats.”

Which do you think was a “cultural” movement? “Subcultural”?

Seems fairly obvious. Lets be logical, folks.

“kind of hilarious that you can be cooler and less pretentious than most of your peers, be aged 21, and it all seems as natural as rolling out of bed for you. must be sweet.”

*the above statement is clearly one of jealousy and/or resentment for a person that has achieved at least some level of literary success

Another argument, which I’ve heard incredibly often, is how “idiotic” writers like Zach and Tao are because they are so-called “hipsters” and have submitted to a subcultural lifestyle in which they present multiple signifiers representative of the Hipster subculture. I spoke with Jeffree Williams last week, one of the editors of the Norton Anthology of Theory and Criticism, and we discussed electronic literature briefly. He believes certain collectives of online writers will one day be classified as something other than what they currently consider themselves, only because of mankind’s desperate need to “discover” something and “label” it. To build off of Dr. Williams’ ideas, and to speak on behalf of the future, I feel writers like Zach and Tao will later be recognized as something other than “Hipster,” but for right now, they’ll be commonly recognized as Hipsters because many Hipster youths currently emulate them–in their writing, in their behavior, etc.

In terms of subculture, how subcultural IS someone like Zach? Or Tao? Especially if they’re doing something different [aesthetically]. If anyone is lacking awareness of individuality or even personal identification, is it not those that try to be everything like Tao or Zach? Try to write like them–behave like them–and yet, aren’t actually even acknowledged by Tao or Zach?

It’s a cliche, but it’s the simplest example I can come up with:

1.
Ginsberg was cool. Referred to as Beat or Beat poet. Part of a literary movement.

2.
Later, mainstream media recognizes Beat culture as “hip” and “fashionable.” Teenagers want to look and dress like “Beats.” Teenagers purchase lots of black clothes. Teenagers purchase bongos. Teenagers gather in each others’ basements–smoke some reefer–play some bongos–write shitty poetry and cry about it. These teenagers refer to themselves as “Beats.”

Which do you think was a “cultural” movement? “Subcultural”?

Seems fairly obvious. Lets be logical, folks.