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	<title>Comments on: Abramson Leslie Consulting v. Steve Fellner</title>
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		<title>By: MFA Industrial Complex, from the Point of View of the Colored Girl in the Room &#124; Barbara Jane Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>MFA Industrial Complex, from the Point of View of the Colored Girl in the Room &#124; Barbara Jane Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://htmlgiant.com/mean/abramson-leslie-consulting-v-steve-fellner/comment-page-2/#comment-25233</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oho.  Well, Seth&#039;s just hissed at me on his ALC blog, so I&#039;ve responded.  

http://abramsonleslie.blogspot.com/2009/09/q-september-2009-3.html#comments

I invite legal issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oho.  Well, Seth&#8217;s just hissed at me on his ALC blog, so I&#8217;ve responded.  </p>
<p><a href="http://abramsonleslie.blogspot.com/2009/09/q-september-2009-3.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://abramsonleslie.blogspot.com/2009/09/q-september-2009-3.html#comments</a></p>
<p>I invite legal issues.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oho.  Well, Seth&#039;s just hissed at me on his ALC blog, so I&#039;ve responded.  

http://abramsonleslie.blogspot.com/2009/09/q-september-2009-3.html#comments

I invite legal issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oho.  Well, Seth&#8217;s just hissed at me on his ALC blog, so I&#8217;ve responded.  </p>
<p><a href="http://abramsonleslie.blogspot.com/2009/09/q-september-2009-3.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://abramsonleslie.blogspot.com/2009/09/q-september-2009-3.html#comments</a></p>
<p>I invite legal issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only people put this kind of effort into writing poetry.</description>
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		<title>By: Hamster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only people put this kind of effort into writing poetry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only people put this kind of effort into writing poetry.</p>
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		<title>By: HTMLGIANT / Why Fellner Removed His ALC Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>HTMLGIANT / Why Fellner Removed His ALC Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those still interested in the ALC/Fellner story, I spoke with Steve Fellner over the phone on Saturday. I want to share his side (with his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t figure out what annoys me more--Seth&#039;s assertion on the ALC blog that he co-authored The Creative Writing MFA Handbook (sorry, folks, it&#039;s clearly authored by Tom Kealey, with Seth as a contributor for the latest version) OR the erroneous hyphenation of &quot;highly-regarded&quot; whenever ALC refers to its consultants.

First of all, don&#039;t misrepresent yourself.  

Second, &quot;quality&quot; creative writing is subjective (which makes this whole endeavor a farce, in my opinion); the rules of hyphenation are not.  I would hope that these consultants could at least help their clients with the very basics of writing, and I&#039;m sorry to see that their website portrays otherwise.  Proofread, damnit!  And if you don&#039;t know basic grammar, hire a grammar consultant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t figure out what annoys me more&#8211;Seth&#8217;s assertion on the ALC blog that he co-authored The Creative Writing MFA Handbook (sorry, folks, it&#8217;s clearly authored by Tom Kealey, with Seth as a contributor for the latest version) OR the erroneous hyphenation of &#8220;highly-regarded&#8221; whenever ALC refers to its consultants.</p>
<p>First of all, don&#8217;t misrepresent yourself.  </p>
<p>Second, &#8220;quality&#8221; creative writing is subjective (which makes this whole endeavor a farce, in my opinion); the rules of hyphenation are not.  I would hope that these consultants could at least help their clients with the very basics of writing, and I&#8217;m sorry to see that their website portrays otherwise.  Proofread, damnit!  And if you don&#8217;t know basic grammar, hire a grammar consultant!</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t figure out what annoys me more--Seth&#039;s assertion on the ALC blog that he co-authored The Creative Writing MFA Handbook (sorry, folks, it&#039;s clearly authored by Tom Kealey, with Seth as a contributor for the latest version) OR the erroneous hyphenation of &quot;highly-regarded&quot; whenever ALC refers to its consultants.

First of all, don&#039;t misrepresent yourself.  

Second, &quot;quality&quot; creative writing is subjective (which makes this whole endeavor a farce, in my opinion); the rules of hyphenation are not.  I would hope that these consultants could at least help their clients with the very basics of writing, and I&#039;m sorry to see that their website portrays otherwise.  Proofread, damnit!  And if you don&#039;t know basic grammar, hire a grammar consultant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t figure out what annoys me more&#8211;Seth&#8217;s assertion on the ALC blog that he co-authored The Creative Writing MFA Handbook (sorry, folks, it&#8217;s clearly authored by Tom Kealey, with Seth as a contributor for the latest version) OR the erroneous hyphenation of &#8220;highly-regarded&#8221; whenever ALC refers to its consultants.</p>
<p>First of all, don&#8217;t misrepresent yourself.  </p>
<p>Second, &#8220;quality&#8221; creative writing is subjective (which makes this whole endeavor a farce, in my opinion); the rules of hyphenation are not.  I would hope that these consultants could at least help their clients with the very basics of writing, and I&#8217;m sorry to see that their website portrays otherwise.  Proofread, damnit!  And if you don&#8217;t know basic grammar, hire a grammar consultant!</p>
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		<title>By: Etl World News &#124; Assorted links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etl World News &#124; Assorted links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] help writers with their applications/portfolios to creative writing MFA/PhD programs.&#160; Here is one negative reaction, here is more on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sam M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this seems a little weird. But what about this statement from Fellner?

&quot;the idea that one should ethically manipulate their art to receive possible help from other poets and fiction writers?&quot;

But the whole reason to go to an MFA program is to manipulate the art, right? If it didn&#039;t need manipulated, from an aesthetic or other point of view, why would you attempt to join a community (by which I mean, pay tuition) in order to have classmates and professors critique it.

On the other end, we all &quot;manipulate our art&quot; to some extent in order to get an agent. After we get an agent, we manipulate it again to get it published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this seems a little weird. But what about this statement from Fellner?</p>
<p>&#8220;the idea that one should ethically manipulate their art to receive possible help from other poets and fiction writers?&#8221;</p>
<p>But the whole reason to go to an MFA program is to manipulate the art, right? If it didn&#8217;t need manipulated, from an aesthetic or other point of view, why would you attempt to join a community (by which I mean, pay tuition) in order to have classmates and professors critique it.</p>
<p>On the other end, we all &#8220;manipulate our art&#8221; to some extent in order to get an agent. After we get an agent, we manipulate it again to get it published.</p>
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