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		<title>By: magick mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>magick mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jereme

i have no idea what you&#039;re getting at with this awareness thing, i was saying that thinking godard is a phase is a phase.

and also, what does tarantino have to do with it? tarantino is a major hack who doesnt actually care about anything important, he only cares about being a giant douche-tool and making money and making sure that everybody in the god damn world knows that he is the &quot;#1 fanboy,&quot; or something.  he seems to fail to understand that films have anything to offer other than surface value.

      &quot;so yeah.&quot;



      &quot;but what you are saying is i’m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with “indie” kids, correct?&quot;

no. the &quot;indie kids&quot; i&#039;m referring to are the reason, it seems to me, why godard ends up turning a lot of people off at first.  you pretty much explicitly stated that you don&#039;t like godard, so how am i grouping you in with indie kids that like godard?



      &quot;and i’ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.&quot;
congratulations, i&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve only seen about 4.

      &quot;so pretty please, tell me why he’s better than truffaut?&quot;
not until you tell me why truffaut is better than godard.

      &quot;did truffaut make “american trash films”?&quot;
both truffaut &amp; godard (and much of the early cahiers du cinema group) have actually vocalized that their primary inspiration was the american noir, or basically other ostensible forms of american trash cinema.  i wasn&#039;t saying &quot;american trash films&quot; as any sort of insult, I was just recognizing the historical significant vis a vis the new wave &#039;group.&#039;

      &quot;oh and btw fuck godard’s politics. what does that have to do with his work?&quot;
from &#039;68 and beyond, godard&#039;s politics had &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; to do with his work, and to say otherwise is to completely ignore everything he strove for in cinema.  it&#039;s irrelevant to higgs&#039; liking, but there were seeds of his political growth present in the &#039;61-&#039;67 films.  you can choose to ignore it in terms of your own personal viewing, but considering auteur theory ostensibly grew out of the criticism &amp; films of the french new wave (though later godard was obviously trying to escape from this) i think it&#039;s stupid to ignore it over all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jereme</p>
<p>i have no idea what you&#8217;re getting at with this awareness thing, i was saying that thinking godard is a phase is a phase.</p>
<p>and also, what does tarantino have to do with it? tarantino is a major hack who doesnt actually care about anything important, he only cares about being a giant douche-tool and making money and making sure that everybody in the god damn world knows that he is the &#8220;#1 fanboy,&#8221; or something.  he seems to fail to understand that films have anything to offer other than surface value.</p>
<p>      &#8220;so yeah.&#8221;</p>
<p>      &#8220;but what you are saying is i’m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with “indie” kids, correct?&#8221;</p>
<p>no. the &#8220;indie kids&#8221; i&#8217;m referring to are the reason, it seems to me, why godard ends up turning a lot of people off at first.  you pretty much explicitly stated that you don&#8217;t like godard, so how am i grouping you in with indie kids that like godard?</p>
<p>      &#8220;and i’ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.&#8221;<br />
congratulations, i&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve only seen about 4.</p>
<p>      &#8220;so pretty please, tell me why he’s better than truffaut?&#8221;<br />
not until you tell me why truffaut is better than godard.</p>
<p>      &#8220;did truffaut make “american trash films”?&#8221;<br />
both truffaut &amp; godard (and much of the early cahiers du cinema group) have actually vocalized that their primary inspiration was the american noir, or basically other ostensible forms of american trash cinema.  i wasn&#8217;t saying &#8220;american trash films&#8221; as any sort of insult, I was just recognizing the historical significant vis a vis the new wave &#8216;group.&#8217;</p>
<p>      &#8220;oh and btw fuck godard’s politics. what does that have to do with his work?&#8221;<br />
from &#8217;68 and beyond, godard&#8217;s politics had <i>everything</i> to do with his work, and to say otherwise is to completely ignore everything he strove for in cinema.  it&#8217;s irrelevant to higgs&#8217; liking, but there were seeds of his political growth present in the &#8217;61-&#8217;67 films.  you can choose to ignore it in terms of your own personal viewing, but considering auteur theory ostensibly grew out of the criticism &amp; films of the french new wave (though later godard was obviously trying to escape from this) i think it&#8217;s stupid to ignore it over all.</p>
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		<title>By: magick mike</title>
		<link>http://htmlgiant.com/snippet/21860/comment-page-2/#comment-132471</link>
		<dc:creator>magick mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jereme

i have no idea what you&#039;re getting at with this awareness thing, i was saying that thinking godard is a phase is a phase.

and also, what does tarantino have to do with it? tarantino is a major hack who doesnt actually care about anything important, he only cares about being a giant douche-tool and making money and making sure that everybody in the god damn world knows that he is the &quot;#1 fanboy,&quot; or something.  he seems to fail to understand that films have anything to offer other than surface value.

      &quot;so yeah.&quot;



      &quot;but what you are saying is i’m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with “indie” kids, correct?&quot;

no. the &quot;indie kids&quot; i&#039;m referring to are the reason, it seems to me, why godard ends up turning a lot of people off at first.  you pretty much explicitly stated that you don&#039;t like godard, so how am i grouping you in with indie kids that like godard?



      &quot;and i’ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.&quot;
congratulations, i&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve only seen about 4.

      &quot;so pretty please, tell me why he’s better than truffaut?&quot;
not until you tell me why truffaut is better than godard.

      &quot;did truffaut make “american trash films”?&quot;
both truffaut &amp; godard (and much of the early cahiers du cinema group) have actually vocalized that their primary inspiration was the american noir, or basically other ostensible forms of american trash cinema.  i wasn&#039;t saying &quot;american trash films&quot; as any sort of insult, I was just recognizing the historical significant vis a vis the new wave &#039;group.&#039;

      &quot;oh and btw fuck godard’s politics. what does that have to do with his work?&quot;
from &#039;68 and beyond, godard&#039;s politics had &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; to do with his work, and to say otherwise is to completely ignore everything he strove for in cinema.  it&#039;s irrelevant to higgs&#039; liking, but there were seeds of his political growth present in the &#039;61-&#039;67 films.  you can choose to ignore it in terms of your own personal viewing, but considering auteur theory ostensibly grew out of the criticism &amp; films of the french new wave (though later godard was obviously trying to escape from this) i think it&#039;s stupid to ignore it over all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jereme</p>
<p>i have no idea what you&#8217;re getting at with this awareness thing, i was saying that thinking godard is a phase is a phase.</p>
<p>and also, what does tarantino have to do with it? tarantino is a major hack who doesnt actually care about anything important, he only cares about being a giant douche-tool and making money and making sure that everybody in the god damn world knows that he is the &#8220;#1 fanboy,&#8221; or something.  he seems to fail to understand that films have anything to offer other than surface value.</p>
<p>      &#8220;so yeah.&#8221;</p>
<p>      &#8220;but what you are saying is i’m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with “indie” kids, correct?&#8221;</p>
<p>no. the &#8220;indie kids&#8221; i&#8217;m referring to are the reason, it seems to me, why godard ends up turning a lot of people off at first.  you pretty much explicitly stated that you don&#8217;t like godard, so how am i grouping you in with indie kids that like godard?</p>
<p>      &#8220;and i’ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.&#8221;<br />
congratulations, i&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve only seen about 4.</p>
<p>      &#8220;so pretty please, tell me why he’s better than truffaut?&#8221;<br />
not until you tell me why truffaut is better than godard.</p>
<p>      &#8220;did truffaut make “american trash films”?&#8221;<br />
both truffaut &amp; godard (and much of the early cahiers du cinema group) have actually vocalized that their primary inspiration was the american noir, or basically other ostensible forms of american trash cinema.  i wasn&#8217;t saying &#8220;american trash films&#8221; as any sort of insult, I was just recognizing the historical significant vis a vis the new wave &#8216;group.&#8217;</p>
<p>      &#8220;oh and btw fuck godard’s politics. what does that have to do with his work?&#8221;<br />
from &#8217;68 and beyond, godard&#8217;s politics had <i>everything</i> to do with his work, and to say otherwise is to completely ignore everything he strove for in cinema.  it&#8217;s irrelevant to higgs&#8217; liking, but there were seeds of his political growth present in the &#8217;61-&#8217;67 films.  you can choose to ignore it in terms of your own personal viewing, but considering auteur theory ostensibly grew out of the criticism &amp; films of the french new wave (though later godard was obviously trying to escape from this) i think it&#8217;s stupid to ignore it over all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kopel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Kopel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great great double great question. Here&#039;s what comes to mind for me:

We Shall All Be Healed by The Mountain Goats
Horses by Patti Smith
...Almost Killed Me by The Hold Steady
3rd/Sister Lovers by Big Star
Double Nickels on the Dime by The Minutemen
Terry Gilliam&#039;s Brazil
Terrence Malick&#039;s Badlands
Jem Cohen&#039;s Benjamin Smoke
Grant Morrison&#039;s run on Animal Man and Doom Patrol
Marvel Comics from the 60s and 70s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great great double great question. Here&#8217;s what comes to mind for me:</p>
<p>We Shall All Be Healed by The Mountain Goats<br />
Horses by Patti Smith<br />
&#8230;Almost Killed Me by The Hold Steady<br />
3rd/Sister Lovers by Big Star<br />
Double Nickels on the Dime by The Minutemen<br />
Terry Gilliam&#8217;s Brazil<br />
Terrence Malick&#8217;s Badlands<br />
Jem Cohen&#8217;s Benjamin Smoke<br />
Grant Morrison&#8217;s run on Animal Man and Doom Patrol<br />
Marvel Comics from the 60s and 70s</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kopel</title>
		<link>http://htmlgiant.com/snippet/21860/comment-page-2/#comment-132470</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Kopel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great great double great question. Here&#039;s what comes to mind for me:

We Shall All Be Healed by The Mountain Goats
Horses by Patti Smith
...Almost Killed Me by The Hold Steady
3rd/Sister Lovers by Big Star
Double Nickels on the Dime by The Minutemen
Terry Gilliam&#039;s Brazil
Terrence Malick&#039;s Badlands
Jem Cohen&#039;s Benjamin Smoke
Grant Morrison&#039;s run on Animal Man and Doom Patrol
Marvel Comics from the 60s and 70s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great great double great question. Here&#8217;s what comes to mind for me:</p>
<p>We Shall All Be Healed by The Mountain Goats<br />
Horses by Patti Smith<br />
&#8230;Almost Killed Me by The Hold Steady<br />
3rd/Sister Lovers by Big Star<br />
Double Nickels on the Dime by The Minutemen<br />
Terry Gilliam&#8217;s Brazil<br />
Terrence Malick&#8217;s Badlands<br />
Jem Cohen&#8217;s Benjamin Smoke<br />
Grant Morrison&#8217;s run on Animal Man and Doom Patrol<br />
Marvel Comics from the 60s and 70s</p>
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		<title>By: jereme</title>
		<link>http://htmlgiant.com/snippet/21860/comment-page-2/#comment-46251</link>
		<dc:creator>jereme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>makes perfect sense to me.  i could only think of his aesthetic value as the reason why you liked him and i agree.  i am picking up what you are putting down.

when blake posed the question about film being an influence, i could only think of two directors in possible response: godard and douglas sirk.

thank you for answering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makes perfect sense to me.  i could only think of his aesthetic value as the reason why you liked him and i agree.  i am picking up what you are putting down.</p>
<p>when blake posed the question about film being an influence, i could only think of two directors in possible response: godard and douglas sirk.</p>
<p>thank you for answering.</p>
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		<title>By: jereme</title>
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		<dc:creator>jereme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>makes perfect sense to me.  i could only think of his aesthetic value as the reason why you liked him and i agree.  i am picking up what you are putting down.

when blake posed the question about film being an influence, i could only think of two directors in possible response: godard and douglas sirk.

thank you for answering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makes perfect sense to me.  i could only think of his aesthetic value as the reason why you liked him and i agree.  i am picking up what you are putting down.</p>
<p>when blake posed the question about film being an influence, i could only think of two directors in possible response: godard and douglas sirk.</p>
<p>thank you for answering.</p>
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		<title>By: jereme</title>
		<link>http://htmlgiant.com/snippet/21860/comment-page-2/#comment-46247</link>
		<dc:creator>jereme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i&#039;m aware it is a phase.

awareness is not simply off or on.  i didn&#039;t really think it necessary to vocalize this fact.

because i&#039;m aware of it and those that are also aware fo it are aware of it and those that aren&#039;t aren&#039;t so what&#039;s the point of saying it?

even tarantino now thinks of godard as a phase.

so yeah.

?

but what you are saying is i&#039;m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with &quot;indie&quot; kids, correct?

see this is where you fail to realize your company.

i understand what godard is and what he did and etc.

and i&#039;ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.

so pretty please, tell me why he&#039;s better than truffaut?

did truffaut make &quot;american trash films&quot;?

hmm.  i wonder why?

oh and btw fuck godard&#039;s politics.  what does that have to do with his work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i&#8217;m aware it is a phase.</p>
<p>awareness is not simply off or on.  i didn&#8217;t really think it necessary to vocalize this fact.</p>
<p>because i&#8217;m aware of it and those that are also aware fo it are aware of it and those that aren&#8217;t aren&#8217;t so what&#8217;s the point of saying it?</p>
<p>even tarantino now thinks of godard as a phase.</p>
<p>so yeah.</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>but what you are saying is i&#8217;m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with &#8220;indie&#8221; kids, correct?</p>
<p>see this is where you fail to realize your company.</p>
<p>i understand what godard is and what he did and etc.</p>
<p>and i&#8217;ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.</p>
<p>so pretty please, tell me why he&#8217;s better than truffaut?</p>
<p>did truffaut make &#8220;american trash films&#8221;?</p>
<p>hmm.  i wonder why?</p>
<p>oh and btw fuck godard&#8217;s politics.  what does that have to do with his work?</p>
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		<title>By: jereme</title>
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		<dc:creator>jereme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i&#039;m aware it is a phase.

awareness is not simply off or on.  i didn&#039;t really think it necessary to vocalize this fact.

because i&#039;m aware of it and those that are also aware fo it are aware of it and those that aren&#039;t aren&#039;t so what&#039;s the point of saying it?

even tarantino now thinks of godard as a phase.

so yeah.

?

but what you are saying is i&#039;m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with &quot;indie&quot; kids, correct?

see this is where you fail to realize your company.

i understand what godard is and what he did and etc.

and i&#039;ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.

so pretty please, tell me why he&#039;s better than truffaut?

did truffaut make &quot;american trash films&quot;?

hmm.  i wonder why?

oh and btw fuck godard&#039;s politics.  what does that have to do with his work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i&#8217;m aware it is a phase.</p>
<p>awareness is not simply off or on.  i didn&#8217;t really think it necessary to vocalize this fact.</p>
<p>because i&#8217;m aware of it and those that are also aware fo it are aware of it and those that aren&#8217;t aren&#8217;t so what&#8217;s the point of saying it?</p>
<p>even tarantino now thinks of godard as a phase.</p>
<p>so yeah.</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>but what you are saying is i&#8217;m just too dumb and ignorant to realize what godard did and you are grouping me in with &#8220;indie&#8221; kids, correct?</p>
<p>see this is where you fail to realize your company.</p>
<p>i understand what godard is and what he did and etc.</p>
<p>and i&#8217;ve seen more than 3 of his fucking films.</p>
<p>so pretty please, tell me why he&#8217;s better than truffaut?</p>
<p>did truffaut make &#8220;american trash films&#8221;?</p>
<p>hmm.  i wonder why?</p>
<p>oh and btw fuck godard&#8217;s politics.  what does that have to do with his work?</p>
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		<title>By: keith n b</title>
		<link>http://htmlgiant.com/snippet/21860/comment-page-2/#comment-46225</link>
		<dc:creator>keith n b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yes yes: institute benjimenta.  exactly as you said, the texture and mystery.  i had no idea what was going on in the movie and yet it still made almost too much sense, so much sense that it was beyond comprehension.

and then a couple months later, andre tarkovsky&#039;s nostalghia.  that is the only movie that i&#039;ve ever watched twice in less than a day: i felt the need to watch it again (before going to sleep) when i woke up in the morning.  both movies enable a liminal state of eyes-wide-open meditation.

i can&#039;t enter either movie anymore, but i&#039;ll never forget where i went when i was able to.

and john coltrane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes yes: institute benjimenta.  exactly as you said, the texture and mystery.  i had no idea what was going on in the movie and yet it still made almost too much sense, so much sense that it was beyond comprehension.</p>
<p>and then a couple months later, andre tarkovsky&#8217;s nostalghia.  that is the only movie that i&#8217;ve ever watched twice in less than a day: i felt the need to watch it again (before going to sleep) when i woke up in the morning.  both movies enable a liminal state of eyes-wide-open meditation.</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t enter either movie anymore, but i&#8217;ll never forget where i went when i was able to.</p>
<p>and john coltrane</p>
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		<title>By: keith n b</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith n b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yes yes: institute benjimenta.  exactly as you said, the texture and mystery.  i had no idea what was going on in the movie and yet it still made almost too much sense, so much sense that it was beyond comprehension.

and then a couple months later, andre tarkovsky&#039;s nostalghia.  that is the only movie that i&#039;ve ever watched twice in less than a day: i felt the need to watch it again (before going to sleep) when i woke up in the morning.  both movies enable a liminal state of eyes-wide-open meditation.

i can&#039;t enter either movie anymore, but i&#039;ll never forget where i went when i was able to.

and john coltrane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yes yes: institute benjimenta.  exactly as you said, the texture and mystery.  i had no idea what was going on in the movie and yet it still made almost too much sense, so much sense that it was beyond comprehension.</p>
<p>and then a couple months later, andre tarkovsky&#8217;s nostalghia.  that is the only movie that i&#8217;ve ever watched twice in less than a day: i felt the need to watch it again (before going to sleep) when i woke up in the morning.  both movies enable a liminal state of eyes-wide-open meditation.</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t enter either movie anymore, but i&#8217;ll never forget where i went when i was able to.</p>
<p>and john coltrane</p>
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