Comments on: Persisting to Be Published. http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/ the internet literature magazine blog of the future Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Annalemma’s Tilt-a-Whirl « BIG OTHER http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-80499 Annalemma’s Tilt-a-Whirl « BIG OTHER Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:55:00 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-80499 [...] Heavener of Annalemma is talking about connections, community, & submissions. This is an important conversation (isn’t it?) & I’d love to know what the BigOther [...] [...] Heavener of Annalemma is talking about connections, community, & submissions. This is an important conversation (isn’t it?) & I’d love to know what the BigOther [...]

]]> By: Community | Annalemma Magazine http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-77943 Community | Annalemma Magazine Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:52:50 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-77943 [...] Without recounting the entire conversation (it’s at the bottom of the thread, you can read it here), we got on the topic of community, to which Darby [...] [...] Without recounting the entire conversation (it’s at the bottom of the thread, you can read it here), we got on the topic of community, to which Darby [...]

]]> By: Ben http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-77778 Ben Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:12:40 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-77778 I understand where Chris is coming from. If someone keeps sending you unicorn porn, and you've told them, hey, the unicorn porn thing isn't working for me, it's going to be frustrating to see a story titled "The Spiraled Horn" in your inbox. I understand where Chris is coming from. If someone keeps sending you unicorn porn, and you’ve told them, hey, the unicorn porn thing isn’t working for me, it’s going to be frustrating to see a story titled “The Spiraled Horn” in your inbox.

]]> By: Ben http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-157430 Ben Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:12:00 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-157430 I understand where Chris is coming from. If someone keeps sending you unicorn porn, and you've told them, hey, the unicorn porn thing isn't working for me, it's going to be frustrating to see a story titled "The Spiraled Horn" in your inbox. I understand where Chris is coming from. If someone keeps sending you unicorn porn, and you’ve told them, hey, the unicorn porn thing isn’t working for me, it’s going to be frustrating to see a story titled “The Spiraled Horn” in your inbox.

]]> By: chris http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-77714 chris Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:48:48 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-77714 No sweat, darby. Hope you see fit to submit sometime. I'm interested to read some of your work. No sweat, darby. Hope you see fit to submit sometime. I’m interested to read some of your work.

]]> By: chris http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-157429 chris Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:48:00 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-157429 No sweat, darby. Hope you see fit to submit sometime. I'm interested to read some of your work. No sweat, darby. Hope you see fit to submit sometime. I’m interested to read some of your work.

]]> By: darby http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-77706 darby Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:42:42 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-77706 thanks for the thoughtful response, chris. i think its good to expect the best, sure. i come at it a little differently maybe as an editor, not so community-driven. i dont think of submissions as potential forgings of relationships or trying to help writers get better. just words for me. ones i like stay, ones i dont go away, not much else. thanks for the thoughtful response, chris. i think its good to expect the best, sure.

i come at it a little differently maybe as an editor, not so community-driven. i dont think of submissions as potential forgings of relationships or trying to help writers get better. just words for me. ones i like stay, ones i dont go away, not much else.

]]> By: darby http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-157428 darby Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:42:00 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-157428 thanks for the thoughtful response, chris. i think its good to expect the best, sure. i come at it a little differently maybe as an editor, not so community-driven. i dont think of submissions as potential forgings of relationships or trying to help writers get better. just words for me. ones i like stay, ones i dont go away, not much else. thanks for the thoughtful response, chris. i think its good to expect the best, sure.

i come at it a little differently maybe as an editor, not so community-driven. i dont think of submissions as potential forgings of relationships or trying to help writers get better. just words for me. ones i like stay, ones i dont go away, not much else.

]]> By: chris http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-77699 chris Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:09:38 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-77699 darby, I hear you on the anger vibe. I've gotten a lot of complaints about that and it caused me to look at why I was doing it. It was pretty immature, reactionary and inarticualte. I realized I probably drove away a lot of good writing trying to weed out the trollers. I've since removed it and tried to articulate why I felt that way. I have a very low tolerance for bad writing. Writing is one of the only things in the world that I can make some sense out and when I see it incongruous with how I understand it I get angry. Part of my daily mission is to try to move past that and understand it. I always thought I'd be a poor writing teacher in that regard as I simply don't have the patience. Time will tell if I'm getting better at it. God knows I strive to be a force of positivity in this world but my human nature makes me negative most of the time. To the 'blacklisting' comment: I think that speaks to the patience thing. I agree that writers develop over time. But what I was talking about was folks whom I've rejected and given them reasons why, time and time again, (clear, thought-out reasons) why their piece didn't work, yet they still keep coming without any progression or regard for what it is that I'm saying. Sometimes not even a cover letter. Just bam, word doc after word doc. It feels like I'm not even talking to a human. And at that point I have to draw a line and be like look, you're not willing to work with me so I don't think this can realisticaly go any further. I'm not expecting anyone to be singualrly devoted to anna, that'd be crazy. There's plenty of mags out there that I read and wish for the success of (side note: one of the things I love about idie lit is the comradery, the feeling of one persons success reflecting well on all of us, and how we've, for the most part, managed to skirt bitterness and jealousy that I see in the upper echelons of the writing world). The way I see it we're all working towards the same goal here: to connect with readers and shed light on the best stories we can. And if that's the goal, is it such an awful thing to expect nothing short of the best of what a writer can bring to the table? darby, I hear you on the anger vibe. I’ve gotten a lot of complaints about that and it caused me to look at why I was doing it. It was pretty immature, reactionary and inarticualte. I realized I probably drove away a lot of good writing trying to weed out the trollers. I’ve since removed it and tried to articulate why I felt that way.

I have a very low tolerance for bad writing. Writing is one of the only things in the world that I can make some sense out and when I see it incongruous with how I understand it I get angry. Part of my daily mission is to try to move past that and understand it. I always thought I’d be a poor writing teacher in that regard as I simply don’t have the patience. Time will tell if I’m getting better at it. God knows I strive to be a force of positivity in this world but my human nature makes me negative most of the time.

To the ‘blacklisting’ comment: I think that speaks to the patience thing. I agree that writers develop over time. But what I was talking about was folks whom I’ve rejected and given them reasons why, time and time again, (clear, thought-out reasons) why their piece didn’t work, yet they still keep coming without any progression or regard for what it is that I’m saying. Sometimes not even a cover letter. Just bam, word doc after word doc. It feels like I’m not even talking to a human. And at that point I have to draw a line and be like look, you’re not willing to work with me so I don’t think this can realisticaly go any further.

I’m not expecting anyone to be singualrly devoted to anna, that’d be crazy. There’s plenty of mags out there that I read and wish for the success of (side note: one of the things I love about idie lit is the comradery, the feeling of one persons success reflecting well on all of us, and how we’ve, for the most part, managed to skirt bitterness and jealousy that I see in the upper echelons of the writing world). The way I see it we’re all working towards the same goal here: to connect with readers and shed light on the best stories we can. And if that’s the goal, is it such an awful thing to expect nothing short of the best of what a writer can bring to the table?

]]> By: chris http://htmlgiant.com/random/persisting-to-be-published/comment-page-1/#comment-157427 chris Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:09:00 +0000 http://htmlgiant.com/?p=34905#comment-157427 darby, I hear you on the anger vibe. I've gotten a lot of complaints about that and it caused me to look at why I was doing it. It was pretty immature, reactionary and inarticualte. I realized I probably drove away a lot of good writing trying to weed out the trollers. I've since removed it and tried to articulate why I felt that way. I have a very low tolerance for bad writing. Writing is one of the only things in the world that I can make some sense out and when I see it incongruous with how I understand it I get angry. Part of my daily mission is to try to move past that and understand it. I always thought I'd be a poor writing teacher in that regard as I simply don't have the patience. Time will tell if I'm getting better at it. God knows I strive to be a force of positivity in this world but my human nature makes me negative most of the time. To the 'blacklisting' comment: I think that speaks to the patience thing. I agree that writers develop over time. But what I was talking about was folks whom I've rejected and given them reasons why, time and time again, (clear, thought-out reasons) why their piece didn't work, yet they still keep coming without any progression or regard for what it is that I'm saying. Sometimes not even a cover letter. Just bam, word doc after word doc. It feels like I'm not even talking to a human. And at that point I have to draw a line and be like look, you're not willing to work with me so I don't think this can realisticaly go any further. I'm not expecting anyone to be singualrly devoted to anna, that'd be crazy. There's plenty of mags out there that I read and wish for the success of (side note: one of the things I love about idie lit is the comradery, the feeling of one persons success reflecting well on all of us, and how we've, for the most part, managed to skirt bitterness and jealousy that I see in the upper echelons of the writing world). The way I see it we're all working towards the same goal here: to connect with readers and shed light on the best stories we can. And if that's the goal, is it such an awful thing to expect nothing short of the best of what a writer can bring to the table? darby, I hear you on the anger vibe. I’ve gotten a lot of complaints about that and it caused me to look at why I was doing it. It was pretty immature, reactionary and inarticualte. I realized I probably drove away a lot of good writing trying to weed out the trollers. I’ve since removed it and tried to articulate why I felt that way.

I have a very low tolerance for bad writing. Writing is one of the only things in the world that I can make some sense out and when I see it incongruous with how I understand it I get angry. Part of my daily mission is to try to move past that and understand it. I always thought I’d be a poor writing teacher in that regard as I simply don’t have the patience. Time will tell if I’m getting better at it. God knows I strive to be a force of positivity in this world but my human nature makes me negative most of the time.

To the ‘blacklisting’ comment: I think that speaks to the patience thing. I agree that writers develop over time. But what I was talking about was folks whom I’ve rejected and given them reasons why, time and time again, (clear, thought-out reasons) why their piece didn’t work, yet they still keep coming without any progression or regard for what it is that I’m saying. Sometimes not even a cover letter. Just bam, word doc after word doc. It feels like I’m not even talking to a human. And at that point I have to draw a line and be like look, you’re not willing to work with me so I don’t think this can realisticaly go any further.

I’m not expecting anyone to be singualrly devoted to anna, that’d be crazy. There’s plenty of mags out there that I read and wish for the success of (side note: one of the things I love about idie lit is the comradery, the feeling of one persons success reflecting well on all of us, and how we’ve, for the most part, managed to skirt bitterness and jealousy that I see in the upper echelons of the writing world). The way I see it we’re all working towards the same goal here: to connect with readers and shed light on the best stories we can. And if that’s the goal, is it such an awful thing to expect nothing short of the best of what a writer can bring to the table?

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