Htmlgiant’s Last Day is October 24th

October 2nd, 2014 / 8:16 pm mimi—

first

October 2nd, 2014 / 8:30 pm Ryan Sanford Smith—

Thanks Obama.

October 2nd, 2014 / 8:43 pm deadgod—

That’s pretty early for Halloween.

I think you two have done an excellent job. The ‘cesspit of misogyny’ bullshit has been as baseless as it’s been malicious, and I hope you haven’t and don’t take too personally the entitlement toxins sprayed by its purveyors.

October 2nd, 2014 / 8:47 pm mimi—

like a dick in a …

October 2nd, 2014 / 8:51 pm Mike Crossley—

Bruh, it hasn’t been baseless. But the method in which some who disagree have went about voicing their opinions was more about the short game instead of the long game. But definitely not baseless.

October 2nd, 2014 / 8:54 pm Ethan—

long live htmlgiant

October 2nd, 2014 / 9:25 pm Ethan Ashley—

I’m gonna miss you big buddy. Thanks for introducing me to so much cool shit.

October 2nd, 2014 / 9:51 pm Brooks Sterritt—

i love everybody

October 2nd, 2014 / 10:15 pm deadgod—

boost gene for being a kind man, he’s probably having an odd evening

unless he’s a packers ‘fan’, in which case things for him are currently tite

October 2nd, 2014 / 10:24 pm mimi—

yeah, i talked to my mom on the phone just a bit ago, but she cut the call short, she’s (they’re) packers fans in packer country

on the other hand, the A’s lost to KC, wild card game, on tuesday night and it was definitely not tite

so long, deaders
boost, gene

October 2nd, 2014 / 11:01 pm LiteraryCircus—

Since the editor asks for a flameout– will there be a discussion of what’s causing the shutdown? Will there be a discussion of the flawed underlying philosophy of people like Tao Lin– postmodernism– which seems to this observer to underpin their thoughts and actions?
That said, free speech HAS to be the primary value of all writers. Otherwise we’re nowhere. I especially don’t like to see those I disagree with shut down. There’s no fun in total agreement– and no intellectual progress can possibly come from it.

October 2nd, 2014 / 11:39 pm MFBomb—

Postmodernism has nothing to do with it. Tao Lin does. HTMLGIANT hitched itself to the alt lit wagon. Commenters as far back as 2010 warned that alt lit was a juvenile fad that wouldn’t last, but they were called get off my lawn types. They warned that alt lit’s nihilism would be its eventual downfall, and they were dismissed as haters. I remember one commenter on here saying something like, “I can’t wait until alt lit buries the old guard,” whatever that means. How’d that work out?

Lin’s last book wasn’t as successful as expected. Now dude’s facing rape charges. STD, Tull, Smith, were all exposed as sexual abusers too.

I’m not shocked that this nihilistic scene is dealing with numerous rape charges. I was never fooled by the lovey-dovey, effeminate, boyish masculinity of its male members that attempted to mask predatory behavior.

October 3rd, 2014 / 12:36 am Donora Hillard—

I love you, Gene.

October 3rd, 2014 / 2:25 am Brooks Sterritt—

especially Gene

October 3rd, 2014 / 7:00 am deadgod—

Well, there’s never been a bigger fan of hyperbole than I am.

But with ‘cesspit of misogyny’, I’m not referring to people being hyperbolic; I’m talking about a less complicatedly intended analogy. Those people wrongly interpret the empirical immediate source of their feeling, and the numbers are evidence of this misprision.

I’m also not arguing against calling, say, Strickland’s blogicle that attacked Zambreno “misogynistic”. Ignoring such a sense would be in as bad faith as calling the whole site “misogynistic” on account of that blogicle (which had a long comment thread with much excoriation of the piece). In the month that that blogicle was published, this site had several reviews by and about women writers: how many of Strickland’s angry critics bothered to comment on any of the issues in any of those pieces?

You see the point of baseless? —not that there’s no misogyny at all, but rather, that finding one pine tree in an oak forest is no reason to call the forest a ‘pine forest’.

October 3rd, 2014 / 7:58 am Usedtocould—

It’s not just an issue with Alt Lit that has some really unsavory characters. Kirk Nesset just got arrested on child porn charges. Tao Lin never drew me to the site. I loved reading HTMLgiant when Roxane Gay, Kyle Minor, and Sean Lovelace posted regularly.

October 3rd, 2014 / 8:56 am drewkalbach—

http://lunia.wikia.com/wiki/Recluse_Forest

October 3rd, 2014 / 9:44 am Adam Robinson—

“as far back as 2010”

October 3rd, 2014 / 9:57 am MFBomb—

Internet years

October 3rd, 2014 / 10:28 am Gene Morgan—

I love you, Donora!

October 3rd, 2014 / 11:29 am Quaint Magazine—

This was the right thing to do. Thank you, Gene.

October 3rd, 2014 / 1:09 pm Bigplatts—

Bittersweet to see this place taken off. I’ll definitely be ploughing through all the older posts. Anyone know any similar sites?

October 3rd, 2014 / 1:28 pm Richard Grayson—

Gene, you are the best. Thank you so much.

October 3rd, 2014 / 3:47 pm jereme_dean—

Ride or die, like it’s 2009.

October 3rd, 2014 / 4:30 pm shaun gannon—

Let me post

October 3rd, 2014 / 4:42 pm A D Jameson—

Seconded.

October 3rd, 2014 / 5:04 pm Roger Wade—

I tell you what we’re gonna do, Marlboro. You’re gonna take that goddamn J.C. Penney tie off and we’re gonna have an old fashioned man to man drinking party.

October 3rd, 2014 / 5:36 pm HZ » Alt Lit Is Dead and Its Women Writers Are Creating Their Own Scene—

[…] scene is in full crisis: Today, the alt lit criticism site and scene blog of record Htmlgiant announced that it’s shutting down. Meanwhile, in a private Facebook group associated with the blog Alt Lit Gossip, women writers have […]

October 3rd, 2014 / 6:04 pm ĴɎĦ—

When I saw this, I went and tried to guess how many “older” pages there were. The first number I put in the url slot was 300. Boy, I was off. Before this latest spate of new posts, there were 1323 pages. (That’s a lotta coconuts.)

October 3rd, 2014 / 6:24 pm Alt Lit Is Dead and Its Women Writers Are Creating Their Own Scene—

[…] scene is in full crisis: Today, the alt lit criticism site and scene blog of record Htmlgiant announced that it’s shutting down. Meanwhile, in a private Facebook group associated with the blog Alt Lit Gossip, women writers have […]

October 3rd, 2014 / 6:58 pm Brooks Sterritt—

lol

October 3rd, 2014 / 9:26 pm HTMLGIANT | Whoever Brought Me Here Will Have To Take Me Home—

[…] feeling of panic-nostalgia to a slightly more personally manageable arena for me, the fact that HTMLGiant is closing has me thinking. I remember coming to the site in 2008/2009, through Molly Gaudry’s blog, […]

October 4th, 2014 / 12:58 am Blake Butler—

email me shaun i’ll set you up

October 4th, 2014 / 1:27 pm Daniel Goldman—

A lot of people are assuming this is related to the recent events w/ Dierks and Tao Lin? Is there actually any connection?

October 4th, 2014 / 9:06 pm grm—

i’ve been working hard to assemble a lot of compare/contrast screenshots for my future children’s gradulation ceremonies but now that this event is happening i am deciding to merely post theeem here and to say that i loved the blake butler things about submitting, baby writers, and more, including but not limited to, most of m kitchell’s things, matthew simmons’ things, and jimmy chen’s things, in addition to but neither limited by nor swallowed neath the thoughts occasionally commented by one lorian long, and a thing about sophia le fraga that was real cool. maybe it is sad, i think it is maybe sad. i came to this website later than most people and when a shitty first thing i wrote was accepted i was shocked and wrote other things that were worse and maybe wrote one pissant thing toward the end that felt about right, but mostly i was just excited at the prospect of a plane where people could eat the same bags of garbage and swallow televisual montags without wondering too hard whether the police were going to pee. i hope some version of something similar exists someday maybe, though maybe not. i can’t rightly say. but to those who started it, fed it, set it on fire occasionally, put it out (often with urine) and rebuilt insane playlands on the ashes, i commend you, as the world is dense with facile chickenbones and my main mane is aloof and off to school. i will miss deadgod, someone who i’m beginning to think will reveal himself on my deathbed to be perhaps this combination of every landlord i’ve ever had including that one kind fellow i. who once received a text from my phone including a photograph and a recorded sound of me making some strange noises that i never remember sending and i don’t indulge in certain things anymore so it doesn’t make good hearty sense. that was a frightening situation. i think that if i had enough money i would buy all of you the collected back issues and a lifetime subscription to 2600 magazine. i’m going to buy that for 600 dollars when i finish this leg of my education and move somewhere, i think i might give away all my books then and only take with me whatever box all of these materials came in. have you all seen that edward snowden interview on the 2600 channel. i almost don’t want to post that here and might catch hell from somebody that wants to avoid conspiracies in addition to all the melee that’s gone on at this locale since the 1920s, but i just mentioned it in passing and do heartily recommend it, what a rush, like spraypainting a church while looking at the internet, that’s the future. also thanks to janice lee, she was always way too kind and and helpful and her work will be read before the last lights of earth go out.

October 4th, 2014 / 10:43 pm mimi—

a moving and idiosyncratic tribute to htmlg

October 4th, 2014 / 10:58 pm Hol_5—

“If you’re a younger writer under the age of 25, I’d advise you to steer clear of scenes or cliques. Bury your head in books while the cool kids fry their brains on prescription drugs and write shitty poetry that would make Jim Morrison blush. You’ll win in the end.”

THANK YOU.
i have written this down for reference

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October 10th, 2014 / 1:35 am reynard seifert—

shit gene! where am i gonna post an essay every six months?

well, it’s been a good ride. it was great meeting some of you in new orleans, but i don’t think i’ll ever regret not going to awp.