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- Joseph Young—
i quite felt the suffereing of thaddeus, and others, and felt empathy toward him. was what made the book best for me. but some of yours are good points to make, though might, maybe, could use some fleshing out. - Joseph Riippi—
Re: Daniel Quinn, I have to admit that the first time I read ‘Ishmael’ it blew my mind. Granted, I was 13. But it remains on the shelf of “those books” with Knowles’ *A Separate Peace* and Gary Paulson’s *Hatchet* and every Calvin and Hobbes... - d—
I guess “but it’s funny!” stops working for me at some point. Of course, the patronizing “critiques” of hip hop are the other side of the same coin, especially all the family values/role of the father conservative shit. - David Backer—
The one premise I can offer to justify my “whining” is this: In Jones’s book, and a lot of writing I’ve been reading online, there is a lack of engagement with extant-real systems of human organization: economies, households, cultures, societies,... - Matthew Simmons—
See? Now I love you. - Richard - Zine-Scene—
I thought Shelley was really nice when I saw here. She stayed around after the reading and talked with a bunch of people and seemed really laid back… It might have been because she was hosted by the University of Alabama faculty, who are really laid back too. - mimi—
Or maybe someone slipped some MSG into my dipping sauce. - mimi—
Yeah, the Fashion Severe connection is weird; is this borderline ‘exploitation’? Korine is BFFs with Chloe’ Sevigny, is he not? Did you ever see Zoolander? Remember the ‘Derelict’ (pronounced ‘de-re-LEEKT”) collection?
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December 5th, 2009 / 1:43 amMark Leidner—
we’re the far two right students and i’m glad your hair is in my face
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December 5th, 2009 / 3:26 amAmy McDaniel—
i’m glad your face is in my hair
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the ending was like the ending of blow-up but not as lame
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December 5th, 2009 / 1:50 amMark Leidner—
implicit compliment wrapped in insult of third-party artist: A+
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December 5th, 2009 / 1:16 pmdavidpeak—
i love you
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haha
tripe is tasty
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December 5th, 2009 / 1:54 amMark Leidner—
this isn’t a compliment.. but there’s a chelsey minnis poem that ends or begins “and you are not tripe..” that i think i stole it from..
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December 5th, 2009 / 1:10 pmPaul—
it’s okay to steal from people you don’t compliment. that seems pretty normal to me.
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Mark, I’ve read some of your poems. And they are – compelling. Compelling enough that I read your WHOLE chapbook – beginning to end.
And super job with the comics; you’re really coming along.
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December 5th, 2009 / 2:18 amMark Leidner—
john i feel like an innocent man just released from prison
now that i can compliment you.. i actually just read and loved the sad little illustrated love story in hobart about the lumberjack.. i love how friendly and evil the lumberjacks are.. or not evil, but all-powerful.. and i like thinking about the difference between those two states
then, at the risk of accidentally self-inauthenticating my own work, i lent my roommate that issue and copy of your book, and sang your praises to him
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December 5th, 2009 / 2:38 amelizabeth ellen—
awww, who doesn’t love a lumberjack?
also, am i the slowest reader on the planet? i had to keep pausing this shit to keep up!
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December 5th, 2009 / 3:46 ammark leidner—
yeah, it’s way too fast in parts
but i had to go see a movie “armored” at 10:10 plus get dinner beforehand, so i had to rush post production
as a side note, don’t go see armored, the only thing that gets robbed is you
armored’s script was more wooden than.. the script for a forest
the big special effects sequence/finale was a stupid truck crashing into some gray dirt
it’s one of those movies where, since no one has a cell phone, all hell breaks loose, but a single character with a single cell phone would’ve easily been able to solve every dramatic problem w/in seconds
but it was fun to make fun of
this movie was like watching 3 men and a baby, except there are 5 men, and the baby is a truck
December 5th, 2009 / 10:23 amjereme—
the cell phone has killed a lot of dramatic effects in film.
i hate it.
technology is killing the crime drama genre which happens to be my $$$.
i wish all cell phones would die instantly.
and the invisible leashes trailing from their owner’s neck too.
but seriously didn’t you see the preview?
you thought matt dillon was going to be awesome?
i mean i like me some matt dillon, even young dillon, like rumblefish, but he wasn’t the good part of those early movies.
he’s just dillon.
i still find it amazing that dillon’s brother, kevin, has been able to ride his coat tails and make money.
i mean dillon was a little hot a long time ago but not much.
man that reminds me of this movie from the late 80’s/early 90’s, real horrible direct to video movie, and it had both kevin dillon and swayze’s brother.
i forget the swayze brother’s first name.
but it was an awesome movie. watching retarded versions of swayze and dillon was pretty interesting.
bad movies.
gotta love them.
December 5th, 2009 / 10:44 amMG—
Cell phones made ‘The Departed’ so good.
I don’t know if you like ‘The Departed,’ Jereme. I do. I think the crime genre can be okay with cell phones if it just accepts them instead of ignoring them.
December 5th, 2009 / 10:57 amjereme—
yes i liked the departed and its original hong kong version infernal affairs ii or whatever it was.
but yeah, great point, i concur about the departed. it is a rare case. and while i enjoyed it thoroughly and agree the movie isn’t the same without the cell phones, i can’t but think of the numerous, numerous times a movie has relied on simple analog technology to build the story, drama, suspense, etc.
i really meant just technology in general.
like have you ever watched the asphalt jungle, or le cercle rouge, or the killing, or even pulp fiction?
those type of movies will never be made again because of technology.
they are going to die like the western and fantasy genres.
no more conan, no more man with no name, no more bank heists.
this is the way of progress.
December 5th, 2009 / 11:02 ammark leidner—
the preview was ridick but i thought it might be decent
this morning when i checked the movie time sit was at like 86% on rottentomatoes
so i was like huh?! oh okay.. maybe..
crossing fingers
but now it’s down to 62%, which is still too high
i don’t mind bad movies, i don’t mind silly movies, but they gotta push the limiit
this movie would’ve been acceptable with a completely crazy 4th act where everything you know gets overturned and stuff like that
but it isnt, it’s completely predictable, i mean, it’s a fucking heist! there’s gotta be a twist..
but as i said to my partner i saw it with as the credits rolled ‘the twist is how boring it is’
lawrence fishburne of arabia
December 6th, 2009 / 9:00 pmMG—
Jereme–
I agree. Unless people set the movies before cell phones were invented.
I saw ‘The Strangers’ when it came out, and it seemed like the first thing they had to concern themselves with in creating that movie was how to get rid of the cell phone. It gets kind of annoying.
Just set everything before 1991 or whenever cell phones were invented. I’m not sure when that was.
okay i fucking lol’ed at “lawrence fishburne of arabia”
i wonder if it is as bad as “ghost r ider”?
did you ever see that?
i did.
at the end of “ghost rider” i felt bad and i looked at my buddy jeremy sitting next to me and told him “fuck dude. i am so sorry. i am on acid and that movie sucked. it must have really sucked for you.”
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December 5th, 2009 / 11:27 amMark Leidner—
lol i don’t think it’s as bad as ghost rider, i never saw that
i usually religiously follow rottentomatoes ratings, i dont know why, ghost rider is 26%
if it’s above 60% i’ll try and go see it, i like watching movies above 60% because it keeps me from drinking
nicolas cage is usually fun to watch ham it up in a bad movie, he’s one of the kings of that
there’s a movie coming out by werner herzog (i don’t know anything about film) called ‘port of call’ that supposed to be a ‘nicolas cage return to form’
you know one of his artsy brilliant roles
which makes you wonder why he does movies like ‘knowing’ or ‘national treasure’ or burning skeleton head motorcycle man
then my friend was telling me about this article she read about nicolas cage vs. george clooney
how nicolas cage chooses so many bad roles, bad characters, bad movies—that when he does a real role, a great character, in a great movie—his presence “pops” on the screen, due to the “relief”-like topography the context of his career brings into the theater
as opposed to george clooney, who chooses much better roles, characters, and movies than nicolas cage, but partly because of which, who always feels like too much of the same character—the same performance—no matter how good he is
the problem of being too self-similar
cage is outside his cage
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I like this. One thing I like is how you can hit play and then minimize it and just hear the music. And then the music goes off, too, after a couple minutes. Though you can also stop the music early if you want.
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December 5th, 2009 / 4:22 pmAmy McDaniel—
are there different compliment rules if both parties have the same first name?
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December 5th, 2009 / 4:23 pmAmy McDaniel—
i wondered this when i met amy hempel, who seemed to think she had heard of me somewhere, which she hadn’t, but having the same first name as her probably helped make her think she had
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December 5th, 2009 / 4:32 pmmark—
Possibly; when I saw Mark Doty (my last name is Doten) I was complimentary, but just to suss him out, get him talking a little, see how serious an opponent he’d be when, years later, I’d be forced to destroy him. (Doty, yr hour draws nigh!)
December 5th, 2009 / 7:36 pmmark leidner—
a good joke would be, ‘i’ve never read anything you’ve written, but every time i hear someone compliment it, for a second i think they’re talking about me..’
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December 5th, 2009 / 7:30 pmmark leidner—
you can also hit play and just shut your eyes to hear the music, but leave it maximized, it makes it more poetic when the view count goes up
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This isn’t quite as good, but a nice reminder that compliments outside lit-world have a whole different economy:
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December 6th, 2009 / 5:31 pmBlake Butler—
nice
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December 6th, 2009 / 9:03 pmMG—
Dang, I love Home Movies.
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December 7th, 2009 / 5:37 ammark—
yeah, home movies is one of the great shows. was searching for the original — which exists on youtube — but found this one, whose aesthetic fit a little better w/mr. leidner’s animation. i do sort of love this version — the red eyes, and also the over-done look of horror on the auditor’s face at the beginning of it.
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December 6th, 2009 / 11:56 pmmark leidner—
i like how it begins in medias res
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