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god is rising
why is fuck not as popular anymore?
shit is consistent
I wouldve guessed goddamn would be higher. that’s my favorite I think
i’ve been hanging out with a girl from britain and the other day she said americans don’t cuss enough so she feels bad when she does so she doesn’t while she’s here. i think it’s because of tv that we don’t as much as them (you still can’t say the seven dirty words) but i feel like i cuss all the time and for some reason she hadn’t really noticed.
(captious) what a thoroughly unscientific survey. (/captious)
Fuck is on a downswing?
I’ve really been trying to raise my fuck percentage in everyday and internet speech and now this?
Well, God, I’m out of fucking step.
Tao brought damn back
now it’s time to bring back bastard
Have you watched “In the Loop”?
Those Brits can cuss up a blue streak.
I’ve been told I use fuck too much in my fiction. I use it too much in my life too. Fuck.
fuck your fucks… before they… fuck you…
no.
What the fuck happened in ’97?
I feel like I cuss a lot, probably too much in public. The social norms of grad school are ruining me for the rest of the world.
why is ‘cunt’ not on the graph?
bastard
hell. that’s just unfortunate.
heh. touche.
cocksucker
Yeah, a lot of the stuff we say in England just wouldn’t fly in America. Even here in the South of England, I find that I can come off as a bit vulgar at times (I’m from the North, where people tend to swear a lot more — it’s kind of like a sliding scale as you approach Scotland, haha). The South is still far swearier than anything I’ve experience in America, though.
Based on my very limited experience of America — confined to, in total, just over two months (spread over a couple of years) spent in New York, Boston, and areas of MA and NH — your swearing seems to have far less variety. As far as I could tell on my visits, however, the “cussin'” seems to be supplemented by a far higher density, if you could call it that, of slang words. They seem to be developed much more organically, and in a greater volume, as well as being more clique-specific to the extent that they almost function like an in-joke. The slang also seems to be applied more to individual objects and the verbs and nouns associated. One group of college kids I was hanging out with used at least four different words (in addition to all of the standard ones) for spliff, as well as two verbs, which also seemed to be unique to their circle, for the action of smoking a spliff. The language they were using was so “young” and organic to the context of their group that they were even aware of its etymology much of the time. That’s in contrast to England, where the majority of the slang we use has a history stretching back at least a century or two, and is usually pretty heavily intertwined with the dialect and “identity” of the people of each region and city. Also, English slang generally covers verbs and adjectives more than it does nouns.
London’s an interesting anomaly; their slang is much faster-moving than the rest of the country’s. It’s also more divided than most cities’ (which is, perhaps, to be expected, since it’s massive). Broadly, though, there’s the posh kid / public school branch of language, which largely originates in the various private and boarding schools dotted around the South of England, and then there’s the more “urban” branch, which has its origins more in the city’s state (i.e. not private) schools and in the various immigrant communities settled in the East of the city. The latter school of speaking is, at the minute, noticeably influenced by a lot of old Jamaican slang. So, there you go. MASSIVE diggression.
Yeah. I notice that people in America don’t say “cunt”. I gather it’s thought to be insanely offensive to the point of being unacceptable over there? It’s still thought of as being probably the worst/naughtiest word over here, and it’s not hugely common in the South, but you hear it quite a lot in the North, as well as in whatever you call the contemporary descendant of Cockney in London. There are definitely some days when I don’t call anyone a “cunt”, but averaged out I reckon I say it as many times in a week as there are days. If you see what I mean.
Swear-words and colloquial slang are awesome.
where’s douchebag
Also, I realise that saying “just wouldn’t fly” is decidedly un-British. I’ve always had a tendency to mix together all of the satisfying slang and colloquialisms I can come across, and I guess being on the internet I’ve picked up a lot of Americanisms.
This isn’t about me, though. This is about England.
So: how about David Cameron? He’s a bit of a slimy prick, innee?
i don’t really like cunt that much, whether or not it’s british people involved. frankly, i think it tends to make the person using it come off a bit psycho.
i do love twat. only the way you guys say it, of course. the american pronunciation of twat is utter bollocks.
also enjoyable: knob, wanker, pillock. what else? it’s been awhile since i read any mr. agreeable, i’m sure he’d be of great service toward this task.
because they are sexist.
CUNT PALACE
It’s funny you should say that.
god is rising
why is fuck not as popular anymore?
shit is consistent
I wouldve guessed goddamn would be higher. that’s my favorite I think
Seems ‘cool’ these days to say ‘i’m fucked’/ ‘we’re fucked’/ ‘our generation is fucked’ [via Shoplifting From American Apparel]/ etc.
i’ve been hanging out with a girl from britain and the other day she said americans don’t cuss enough so she feels bad when she does so she doesn’t while she’s here. i think it’s because of tv that we don’t as much as them (you still can’t say the seven dirty words) but i feel like i cuss all the time and for some reason she hadn’t really noticed.
Fuck is on a downswing?
I’ve really been trying to raise my fuck percentage in everyday and internet speech and now this?
Well, God, I’m out of fucking step.
Tao brought damn back
now it’s time to bring back bastard
Have you watched “In the Loop”?
Those Brits can cuss up a blue streak.
I’ve been told I use fuck too much in my fiction. I use it too much in my life too. Fuck.
bastard!
Always have favored motherfucker. Goddamn.
Whenever we eat something that tastes really good we say it’s “fuck me” good.
What the fuck happened in ’97?
I feel like I cuss a lot, probably too much in public. The social norms of grad school are ruining me for the rest of the world.
Isn’t the guy who swears the most in “In the Loop” actually supposed to be Scottish?
why is ‘cunt’ not on the graph?
prick, prat, the bellend / nob-end family, dickhead, ponce, wassock, sack … I can’t think of any more right now.
do Americans use “bollocks”? I thought that was more or less exclusively British.
“wanker” has to be one of the favourites over here, I think. definite top 5 material.
does that mean the food is so good it is similar to an awesome fuck or does it mean it is so good you want to succumb to its being?
i guess it is a question of intimacy, either way.
just curious what it means to you.
^_______those aren’t my words.
which makes your connotation funnier.
but that’s not how i meant it.
I think you’ve about covered it there, the “so good” and the “want it”.
bastard
yeah. well, I think he IS Scottish. if not, he does a good accent. the Scottish definitely tend to swear a lot more than the British, particularly in the south of the country, it seems (and especially in the Glasgow area).
actually, I don’t know if that’s true. people in most Northern cities do plenty of swearing. it’s just that most of our TV and entertainment is made in the South — specifically, in London — and primarily portrays that section of the country, meaning that their tendencies and habits are made much more prominent / visible.
I have to say, though, that I’ve never met anyone who swears quite as much as the ‘In the Loop’ guy.
hell. that’s just unfortunate.
you are a romantic.
cocksucker
Yeah, a lot of the stuff we say in England just wouldn’t fly in America. Even here in the South of England, I find that I can come off as a bit vulgar at times (I’m from the North, where people tend to swear a lot more — it’s kind of like a sliding scale as you approach Scotland, haha). The South is still far swearier than anything I’ve experience in America, though.
Based on my very limited experience of America — confined to, in total, just over two months (spread over a couple of years) spent in New York, Boston, and areas of MA and NH — your swearing seems to have far less variety. As far as I could tell on my visits, however, the “cussin'” seems to be supplemented by a far higher density, if you could call it that, of slang words. They seem to be developed much more organically, and in a greater volume, as well as being more clique-specific to the extent that they almost function like an in-joke. The slang also seems to be applied more to individual objects and the verbs and nouns associated. One group of college kids I was hanging out with used at least four different words (in addition to all of the standard ones) for spliff, as well as two verbs, which also seemed to be unique to their circle, for the action of smoking a spliff. The language they were using was so “young” and organic to the context of their group that they were even aware of its etymology much of the time. That’s in contrast to England, where the majority of the slang we use has a history stretching back at least a century or two, and is usually pretty heavily intertwined with the dialect and “identity” of the people of each region and city. Also, English slang generally covers verbs and adjectives more than it does nouns.
London’s an interesting anomaly; their slang is much faster-moving than the rest of the country’s. It’s also more divided than most cities’ (which is, perhaps, to be expected, since it’s massive). Broadly, though, there’s the posh kid / public school branch of language, which largely originates in the various private and boarding schools dotted around the South of England, and then there’s the more “urban” branch, which has its origins more in the city’s state (i.e. not private) schools and in the various immigrant communities settled in the East of the city. The latter school of speaking is, at the minute, noticeably influenced by a lot of old Jamaican slang. So, there you go. MASSIVE diggression.
Yeah. I notice that people in America don’t say “cunt”. I gather it’s thought to be insanely offensive to the point of being unacceptable over there? It’s still thought of as being probably the worst/naughtiest word over here, and it’s not hugely common in the South, but you hear it quite a lot in the North, as well as in whatever you call the contemporary descendant of Cockney in London. There are definitely some days when I don’t call anyone a “cunt”, but averaged out I reckon I say it as many times in a week as there are days. If you see what I mean.
Swear-words and colloquial slang are awesome.
where’s douchebag
Also, I realise that saying “just wouldn’t fly” is decidedly un-British. I’ve always had a tendency to mix together all of the satisfying slang and colloquialisms I can come across, and I guess being on the internet I’ve picked up a lot of Americanisms.
This isn’t about me, though. This is about England.
So: how about David Cameron? He’s a bit of a slimy prick, innee?
i don’t really like cunt that much, whether or not it’s british people involved. frankly, i think it tends to make the person using it come off a bit psycho.
i do love twat. only the way you guys say it, of course. the american pronunciation of twat is utter bollocks.
also enjoyable: knob, wanker, pillock. what else? it’s been awhile since i read any mr. agreeable, i’m sure he’d be of great service toward this task.
because they are sexist.
CUNT PALACE
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It’s funny you should say that.
I can’t remember where I read it but there was a discussion about the best word to use for vagina in literature. The conclusion seemed to be that vagina was too prissy, pussy too sleazy, fanny too childish and that cunt seemed to be the only word that didn’t ring untrue.
Also noticed that if you ever read any of Joyce’s letters he uses the word in dead seriousness. I think one of his comments from the Budgen book was that ‘the four cardinal points of the female body are the tits, arse, womb and cunt’. HAHA
Seems ‘cool’ these days to say ‘i’m fucked’/ ‘we’re fucked’/ ‘our generation is fucked’ [via Shoplifting From American Apparel]/ etc.
http://whatthefuckshouldimakefordinner.com/
And then there’s the classic Dorothy Parker quote “I’ve been too fucking busy, and vice versa.”
bastard!
Always have favored motherfucker. Goddamn.
Whenever we eat something that tastes really good we say it’s “fuck me” good.
Isn’t the guy who swears the most in “In the Loop” actually supposed to be Scottish?
prick, prat, the bellend / nob-end family, dickhead, ponce, wassock, sack … I can’t think of any more right now.
do Americans use “bollocks”? I thought that was more or less exclusively British.
“wanker” has to be one of the favourites over here, I think. definite top 5 material.
does that mean the food is so good it is similar to an awesome fuck or does it mean it is so good you want to succumb to its being?
i guess it is a question of intimacy, either way.
just curious what it means to you.
^_______those aren’t my words.
which makes your connotation funnier.
but that’s not how i meant it.
I think you’ve about covered it there, the “so good” and the “want it”.
yeah. well, I think he IS Scottish. if not, he does a good accent. the Scottish definitely tend to swear a lot more than the British, particularly in the south of the country, it seems (and especially in the Glasgow area).
actually, I don’t know if that’s true. people in most Northern cities do plenty of swearing. it’s just that most of our TV and entertainment is made in the South — specifically, in London — and primarily portrays that section of the country, meaning that their tendencies and habits are made much more prominent / visible.
I have to say, though, that I’ve never met anyone who swears quite as much as the ‘In the Loop’ guy.
you are a romantic.
I can’t remember where I read it but there was a discussion about the best word to use for vagina in literature. The conclusion seemed to be that vagina was too prissy, pussy too sleazy, fanny too childish and that cunt seemed to be the only word that didn’t ring untrue.
Also noticed that if you ever read any of Joyce’s letters he uses the word in dead seriousness. I think one of his comments from the Budgen book was that ‘the four cardinal points of the female body are the tits, arse, womb and cunt’. HAHA
http://whatthefuckshouldimakefordinner.com/
And then there’s the classic Dorothy Parker quote “I’ve been too fucking busy, and vice versa.”
@brett yes. that book invented those sentiments.
hell ya
hell ya
what about ‘douchebag?’ Seems to surface everywhere these days, though it is quite sophomoric and not as satisfying as ‘fuck.’ It even made it onto Deadwood, even though I don’t know if they had douchebags in the Wild West. And who douches anymore?
what about ‘douchebag?’ Seems to surface everywhere these days, though it is quite sophomoric and not as satisfying as ‘fuck.’ It even made it onto Deadwood, even though I don’t know if they had douchebags in the Wild West. And who douches anymore?