August 30th, 2009 / 7:51 pm
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a question: do you like to hang out with other “writer types/academic types/artist types” or do you prefer hanging out with people who aren’t those things, at least not professedly.  and why is that.  i am really interested in what people think about this.  also, to preempt, i mean “instead of being alone,” which is obviously preferable to both.

78 Comments

  1. michael james

      I don’t know. I mean, I do know, but I don’t know. This isn’t on purpose.

      I used to hang out with poets and fellow writers, but then I felt weird and awkward when I’d write something and then they’d get all weird around me. A mixture of envy and awe. And then they’d find little ways to dig into me. All competition stuff. Which is what they say being a writer and friends with writers tends to be like.

      I like to hang around musicians and visual artists. Because I can only draw badly, but I like my bad drawings. But not enough where I start to believe I am as good as those ‘real’ visual artists. And they look at my work the same way. Or they’re better than me at writing and I like to hang around them because it charges me up and makes me feel good to be in the presence of someone doing damage to the arts (good damage). And I’m not the jealous/envious type so its a good relationship. And musicians tend to love fucking poets/writers in general. So there’s a plus.

      There are only a select few people who aren’t creative I can hang with. They either got to have an appreciation for the arts, or a kind of philosophical mind. Otherwise, I’ve come to realize, leave me the hell alone. Because I grew up with a bunch of friends who never knew I was creative. The only knew the guy they got drunk with or smoked weed with or the guy who talked to the group of girls alone because they were too scared to do something. And then when a short film I made played in a festival and ended up playing on Jet Blue and Virgin they suddenly became so insanely jealous. I was surprised. These guys I knew for 13 years were suddenly not my friends. Not because I wasn’t a good friend, but because I was creative and having a little bit of success.

      So, with other artists, at least there’s less of a chance of this happening. But… not entirely.

      Non-artists are almost the same as artists.

      It’s not about whether or not they’re artists or not, its kind of about the soul of a person, their mind, their connection to the weird. Good people vs assdicks.

      Where’s PR?

  2. michael james

      I don’t know. I mean, I do know, but I don’t know. This isn’t on purpose.

      I used to hang out with poets and fellow writers, but then I felt weird and awkward when I’d write something and then they’d get all weird around me. A mixture of envy and awe. And then they’d find little ways to dig into me. All competition stuff. Which is what they say being a writer and friends with writers tends to be like.

      I like to hang around musicians and visual artists. Because I can only draw badly, but I like my bad drawings. But not enough where I start to believe I am as good as those ‘real’ visual artists. And they look at my work the same way. Or they’re better than me at writing and I like to hang around them because it charges me up and makes me feel good to be in the presence of someone doing damage to the arts (good damage). And I’m not the jealous/envious type so its a good relationship. And musicians tend to love fucking poets/writers in general. So there’s a plus.

      There are only a select few people who aren’t creative I can hang with. They either got to have an appreciation for the arts, or a kind of philosophical mind. Otherwise, I’ve come to realize, leave me the hell alone. Because I grew up with a bunch of friends who never knew I was creative. The only knew the guy they got drunk with or smoked weed with or the guy who talked to the group of girls alone because they were too scared to do something. And then when a short film I made played in a festival and ended up playing on Jet Blue and Virgin they suddenly became so insanely jealous. I was surprised. These guys I knew for 13 years were suddenly not my friends. Not because I wasn’t a good friend, but because I was creative and having a little bit of success.

      So, with other artists, at least there’s less of a chance of this happening. But… not entirely.

      Non-artists are almost the same as artists.

      It’s not about whether or not they’re artists or not, its kind of about the soul of a person, their mind, their connection to the weird. Good people vs assdicks.

      Where’s PR?

  3. jereme

      i don’t understand the nature of this question. are you saying would i prefer to hang out with people i get along with whom may be a writer/artist type or are you asking if i would just prefer to hang out with random artists/writers?

      the first yes, of course, blood-sacks i consider my “friends” i enjoy hanging out with regardless if they are writers/artists. the caveat is i don’t want the focal point of the situation to be art-centric.

      the latter? god, nothing is more deplorable than hanging out with random asshole writer/artist types. i think the politicians are the only ego-stroking elitist group worse than fucking artists.

      i would much rather sit on a curb and share thoughts about life with a bum than spend time with writer types.

      at least the bum has perspective and honesty.

  4. jereme

      i don’t understand the nature of this question. are you saying would i prefer to hang out with people i get along with whom may be a writer/artist type or are you asking if i would just prefer to hang out with random artists/writers?

      the first yes, of course, blood-sacks i consider my “friends” i enjoy hanging out with regardless if they are writers/artists. the caveat is i don’t want the focal point of the situation to be art-centric.

      the latter? god, nothing is more deplorable than hanging out with random asshole writer/artist types. i think the politicians are the only ego-stroking elitist group worse than fucking artists.

      i would much rather sit on a curb and share thoughts about life with a bum than spend time with writer types.

      at least the bum has perspective and honesty.

  5. sasha fletcher

      fact. hey wanna throw rocks and rocks again soon?

  6. sasha fletcher

      fact. hey wanna throw rocks and rocks again soon?

  7. Sabra

      I like cute people better than non-cute people. Definitely. I also prefer cat people to dog people. I like people who take showers daily…people who cook things for me to eat and give me backrubs. It’s also funny when they bust out Spanish in Mexican restaurants. Haha, people are so cute and multi-talented sometimes! Mmm, guacamole…

  8. Sabra

      I like cute people better than non-cute people. Definitely. I also prefer cat people to dog people. I like people who take showers daily…people who cook things for me to eat and give me backrubs. It’s also funny when they bust out Spanish in Mexican restaurants. Haha, people are so cute and multi-talented sometimes! Mmm, guacamole…

  9. drew kalbach

      i have one writer friend. none of my closest friends write. they hardly read.

      i’m sitting at a table with them, actually.

      start reading, joe.

  10. drew kalbach

      i have one writer friend. none of my closest friends write. they hardly read.

      i’m sitting at a table with them, actually.

      start reading, joe.

  11. sasha fletcher

      WHAT ABOUT ME DREW.
      DON’T I COUNT FOR SOMETHING.

  12. sasha fletcher

      WHAT ABOUT ME DREW.
      DON’T I COUNT FOR SOMETHING.

  13. christian

      there’s the problem — i’ve never been any good at tennis. even in gym class i was kicked off the court for being “dangerous” though it felt to me like i was doing exactly what everyone else was. if you move on to basketball please let me know.

  14. christian

      there’s the problem — i’ve never been any good at tennis. even in gym class i was kicked off the court for being “dangerous” though it felt to me like i was doing exactly what everyone else was. if you move on to basketball please let me know.

  15. sam pink

      yeah i have two kitties now and i can honestly say they are better that 99% of the city of chicago.

  16. sam pink

      yeah i have two kitties now and i can honestly say they are better that 99% of the city of chicago.

  17. brandi

      I meant to say, “I don’t have friends that read books.”

  18. brandi

      I meant to say, “I don’t have friends that read books.”

  19. PHM

      I say bring back the likes of the Beat Generation, you know? Somehow they had it right. Maybe their era helped them along. Where are the women beats? But all things being equal, I think the number one reason I almost decided on going to school in Chicago was because it seems to have a strong literary scene.

      Hanging out with Adam Robinson, on both occasions, made me feel much dumber, but that wasn’t his fault.

  20. PHM

      I say bring back the likes of the Beat Generation, you know? Somehow they had it right. Maybe their era helped them along. Where are the women beats? But all things being equal, I think the number one reason I almost decided on going to school in Chicago was because it seems to have a strong literary scene.

      Hanging out with Adam Robinson, on both occasions, made me feel much dumber, but that wasn’t his fault.

  21. james yeh

      depends on the bum

      (also depends on the writer and politician)

  22. james yeh

      depends on the bum

      (also depends on the writer and politician)

  23. james yeh

      has nothing to do with former bandmates. i pretty much like all my former bandmates. hard to believe but true

  24. james yeh

      has nothing to do with former bandmates. i pretty much like all my former bandmates. hard to believe but true

  25. sasha fletcher

      that’s sad.

  26. sasha fletcher

      that’s sad.

  27. jereme

      true, but from a random sampling of all demographics, the house bet is with the bum.

  28. jereme

      true, but from a random sampling of all demographics, the house bet is with the bum.