March 18th, 2010 / 1:49 pm
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  1. stephen

      jimmy chen FTW

  2. stephen

      jimmy chen FTW

  3. ce.
  4. ce.
  5. xtx

      emerging from woodwork to high five you.

  6. xtx

      emerging from woodwork to high five you.

  7. ryan

      the kindle is great for erotica, especially if you happen to be a little embarrassed purchasing it at the counter.

      just saying.

  8. ryan

      the kindle is great for erotica, especially if you happen to be a little embarrassed purchasing it at the counter.

      just saying.

  9. Morningstar

      Absofuckinglutely.

  10. Morningstar

      Absofuckinglutely.

  11. Roxane Gay

      I love my Kindle. Love it. Then again, 1996 was pretty decent too.

  12. Roxane Gay

      I love my Kindle. Love it. Then again, 1996 was pretty decent too.

  13. kfan

      I don’t LOVE my Kindle, but it’s nice for airplanes and vacations, not having to pack the usual 20 books.

      Books for the Kindle are written in HTML, so I would think it would be a natural fit, HTMLGIANT.

  14. kfan

      I don’t LOVE my Kindle, but it’s nice for airplanes and vacations, not having to pack the usual 20 books.

      Books for the Kindle are written in HTML, so I would think it would be a natural fit, HTMLGIANT.

  15. Sasha

      Thank you. I want this on a shirt.

  16. Sasha

      Thank you. I want this on a shirt.

  17. Gene Morgan

      Can’t wait until I release our iPad app in 2011. It’ll be exactly like the website you already know and love, but with like menus that pop-up when you poke at shit.

  18. Gene Morgan

      Can’t wait until I release our iPad app in 2011. It’ll be exactly like the website you already know and love, but with like menus that pop-up when you poke at shit.

  19. htad

      i’m dragging this picture to my desktop

  20. htad

      i’m dragging this picture to my desktop

  21. Roxane Gay

      Excellent. Can’t wait to try it out. That pop up technology is so innovative.

  22. Roxane Gay

      Excellent. Can’t wait to try it out. That pop up technology is so innovative.

  23. KevinS

      Jimmy is our Jesus. Follow him.

  24. KevinS

      Jimmy is our Jesus. Follow him.

  25. Matt Cozart

      the lawn of printed books is one of the few that should not be trod upon

  26. Matt Cozart

      the lawn of printed books is one of the few that should not be trod upon

  27. ce.

      Ha. Fair enough.

      For what it’s worth, I love books as _things_ (especially when a publisher really explores this as a concept in their design) and I don’t even own a Kindle(haven’t justified the expense), but I can at least appreciate its utility.

      Blah blah blah. Sometimes I’m a contrarian asshat. I have a sense of humor. Honest.

  28. ce.

      Ha. Fair enough.

      For what it’s worth, I love books as _things_ (especially when a publisher really explores this as a concept in their design) and I don’t even own a Kindle(haven’t justified the expense), but I can at least appreciate its utility.

      Blah blah blah. Sometimes I’m a contrarian asshat. I have a sense of humor. Honest.

  29. Joseph Young

      i don’t know. books are neat objects, esp artful ones, and i don’t own a kindle and don’t aim to buy one, but i could be persuaded at some point. i could care less about CDs, much less records. mp3s are just fine. good post though, v funny.

  30. Joseph Young

      i don’t know. books are neat objects, esp artful ones, and i don’t own a kindle and don’t aim to buy one, but i could be persuaded at some point. i could care less about CDs, much less records. mp3s are just fine. good post though, v funny.

  31. kfan

      And actually, does anyone associated with HTMLGiant actually publish books for the Kindle/Kindle App? That is a post I would be interested to read.

  32. kfan

      And actually, does anyone associated with HTMLGiant actually publish books for the Kindle/Kindle App? That is a post I would be interested to read.

  33. Vaughan Simons

      While I agree … I also thinks this smacks a little of the luddites (that’s the historical British meaning of the word, incidentally – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite) destroying the evil mechanized looms. It just seems a bit of an odd attitude for an apparently forward-thinking site such as HTMLGIANT to take. I don’t for a moment subscribe to the notion that e-readers are going to replace books made of paper – those Arthur C Clarke style nerds can go to hell – but I do think an awareness, an understanding and a willingness to deal with the e-book format isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There’s a whole wide world out there, folks.

  34. Vaughan Simons

      While I agree … I also thinks this smacks a little of the luddites (that’s the historical British meaning of the word, incidentally – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite) destroying the evil mechanized looms. It just seems a bit of an odd attitude for an apparently forward-thinking site such as HTMLGIANT to take. I don’t for a moment subscribe to the notion that e-readers are going to replace books made of paper – those Arthur C Clarke style nerds can go to hell – but I do think an awareness, an understanding and a willingness to deal with the e-book format isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There’s a whole wide world out there, folks.

  35. Adam Robinson

      I’m having a hard time figuring out my Nook, but I’ve only had it for a week. It seems pretty cool, but here are 2 problems I have with it:

      1) I always need to know where I am in a book, not just by page number but in the weight in my left hand compared to my right. I will probably get past this though.
      2) More importantly, it’s pretty hard to flip through to check a reference from an earlier page. And the highlighing feature is a joke.

  36. Adam Robinson

      I’m having a hard time figuring out my Nook, but I’ve only had it for a week. It seems pretty cool, but here are 2 problems I have with it:

      1) I always need to know where I am in a book, not just by page number but in the weight in my left hand compared to my right. I will probably get past this though.
      2) More importantly, it’s pretty hard to flip through to check a reference from an earlier page. And the highlighing feature is a joke.

  37. Matt Cozart

      “forward-thinking”

      does forward always = technology? maybe the luddites had a point…

  38. Matt Cozart

      “forward-thinking”

      does forward always = technology? maybe the luddites had a point…

  39. Vaughan Simons

      I wasn’t just thinking ‘forward-thinking’ in terms of technology – though let’s not forget that HTMLGIANT and ninety per cent of the writers featured here are here because of technology, the internet – but also in terms of literature and literary innovation. It could be argued that the Kindle and its ilk are another form of literary innovation.

  40. Vaughan Simons

      I wasn’t just thinking ‘forward-thinking’ in terms of technology – though let’s not forget that HTMLGIANT and ninety per cent of the writers featured here are here because of technology, the internet – but also in terms of literature and literary innovation. It could be argued that the Kindle and its ilk are another form of literary innovation.

  41. Tony Perez

      I admittedly have yet to actually buy a book for my Kindle, but it’s fantastic for reading manuscripts. I’ve been able to reduce the amount of paper I waste, accept more electronic submissions without having to worry about printing costs, and anytime I travel with it in lieu of a pile of loose pages, I want to give it an open-mouthed kiss.
      If you genuinely care about the success of small presses, you should be excited about e-books making up a bigger share of the market…bookstore returns kill small presses, and production/shipping costs obviously limit the amount of work we’re able to put out there. I’m not saying I’m comfortable giving up my physical copies yet, and the technology still needs some fine tuning, but I’m certainly not going to fight this transition.

  42. Tony Perez

      I admittedly have yet to actually buy a book for my Kindle, but it’s fantastic for reading manuscripts. I’ve been able to reduce the amount of paper I waste, accept more electronic submissions without having to worry about printing costs, and anytime I travel with it in lieu of a pile of loose pages, I want to give it an open-mouthed kiss.
      If you genuinely care about the success of small presses, you should be excited about e-books making up a bigger share of the market…bookstore returns kill small presses, and production/shipping costs obviously limit the amount of work we’re able to put out there. I’m not saying I’m comfortable giving up my physical copies yet, and the technology still needs some fine tuning, but I’m certainly not going to fight this transition.

  43. Roxane Gay

      We put our magazine out on Kindle and we’re about to release our first chapbook for the Kindle. We wanted to give the print version a little exclusive time first but after AWP, we’ll make a Kindle version available.

  44. Roxane Gay

      We put our magazine out on Kindle and we’re about to release our first chapbook for the Kindle. We wanted to give the print version a little exclusive time first but after AWP, we’ll make a Kindle version available.

  45. Roxane Gay

      I am of the firm belief that many people who shit talk the Kindle have never used one.

  46. Roxane Gay

      I am of the firm belief that many people who shit talk the Kindle have never used one.

  47. Amber

      I shat all over it before I used one. I sounded like Jimmy. Now I own a Nook and am a believer. I only had to bring one thing with me on a recent business trip. Instead of the usual sixteen books.

      This is such a dumb argument, really. As if there were only one way of enjoying something. Hey, guess what? I still love/read paper books, too.

  48. Amber

      I shat all over it before I used one. I sounded like Jimmy. Now I own a Nook and am a believer. I only had to bring one thing with me on a recent business trip. Instead of the usual sixteen books.

      This is such a dumb argument, really. As if there were only one way of enjoying something. Hey, guess what? I still love/read paper books, too.

  49. Amber

      I do hate the highlighting feature. The Kindle’s is way better. But I love the color touch screen.

  50. Amber

      I do hate the highlighting feature. The Kindle’s is way better. But I love the color touch screen.

  51. Roxane Gay

      Yeah I was a real skeptic before I got one. And you’re so right. For me, it doesn’t replace my books, it supplements them. I buy some titles as books and others as ebooks and it works out great.

  52. Roxane Gay

      Yeah I was a real skeptic before I got one. And you’re so right. For me, it doesn’t replace my books, it supplements them. I buy some titles as books and others as ebooks and it works out great.

  53. Vaughan Simons

      Oh, and recently, when I’ve not wanted to take a bag with me to and from work, I’ve been reading books using either Stanza or the Amazon Kindle app on my iPhone.

      I realise that this is probably a statement of utter heresy, and people are soon going to jump upon me and tear me from limb to limb.

      But here’s the thing: it’s convenient, it works for me, and I’m reading.

  54. Vaughan Simons

      Oh, and recently, when I’ve not wanted to take a bag with me to and from work, I’ve been reading books using either Stanza or the Amazon Kindle app on my iPhone.

      I realise that this is probably a statement of utter heresy, and people are soon going to jump upon me and tear me from limb to limb.

      But here’s the thing: it’s convenient, it works for me, and I’m reading.

  55. gene

      no. htmlgiant writers aren’t here because of technology. you may think of them as writers that were forged via the internet but that’s as reductive as saying that television formed every writer since the 30s. in some ways, it affects all of us. those with fingers and eyes. but the majority of writers that are featured here would be in existence on indies or bigs even if this robot talkbox didn’t exist.

  56. gene

      no. htmlgiant writers aren’t here because of technology. you may think of them as writers that were forged via the internet but that’s as reductive as saying that television formed every writer since the 30s. in some ways, it affects all of us. those with fingers and eyes. but the majority of writers that are featured here would be in existence on indies or bigs even if this robot talkbox didn’t exist.

  57. Sean

      Here because of technology? Cough.

      My college didn’t have email or internet. They were not invented.

      Didn’t Socrates hold forums in 400BC?

      S

  58. Sean

      Here because of technology? Cough.

      My college didn’t have email or internet. They were not invented.

      Didn’t Socrates hold forums in 400BC?

      S

  59. kevin

      Awesome post, as always.

  60. kevin

      Awesome post, as always.

  61. Larry

      I like when people tell me what to read and how to do it. I like when people do that about anything.

  62. Larry

      I like when people tell me what to read and how to do it. I like when people do that about anything.

  63. Lincoln

      I’ve used a Kindle and do not like it. It holds no advantages for me over a real book. I can understand why some people would like it (people who drag 10 books around with them at a time or who have to buy expensive textbooks, etc.) but there is nothing about it beneficial from my standpoint and there are a ton of drawbacks.

      I know lots of people who have used them and feel the same.

  64. Lincoln

      I’ve used a Kindle and do not like it. It holds no advantages for me over a real book. I can understand why some people would like it (people who drag 10 books around with them at a time or who have to buy expensive textbooks, etc.) but there is nothing about it beneficial from my standpoint and there are a ton of drawbacks.

      I know lots of people who have used them and feel the same.

  65. Lincoln

      Not everything that gets created is any kind of real progress. Remember when the Segway was going to replace all other forms of transportation? People like to hype new tech gizmos, even if they are pointless.

      e-readers aren’t pointless, but they are pretty crappy and frankly insignificant book sale wise at this point.

      Who knows what they will look like or function like in 5 or 10 years though?

  66. Lincoln

      Not everything that gets created is any kind of real progress. Remember when the Segway was going to replace all other forms of transportation? People like to hype new tech gizmos, even if they are pointless.

      e-readers aren’t pointless, but they are pretty crappy and frankly insignificant book sale wise at this point.

      Who knows what they will look like or function like in 5 or 10 years though?

  67. Roxane Gay

      It’s not for everyone, but I’m gaga for the thing because I read a lot at the gym and I like to travel with lots of books. I find it so convenient.

  68. Roxane Gay

      It’s not for everyone, but I’m gaga for the thing because I read a lot at the gym and I like to travel with lots of books. I find it so convenient.

  69. Lincoln

      Like I said, I can see why some people like it. I think it is very annoying to read with and loses too many great things about reading a physical book with no gains except extra storage. For me, that doesn’t matter since I don’t carry more than 3, maybe 4 max, books and normally only one or two.

      One of the great joys in life is sliding a paperback into your jacket you can pull out on the train and not have to carry a bag around all night. Dont’ have much interest in carrying an expensive piece of machinery I risk breaking.

  70. Lincoln

      Like I said, I can see why some people like it. I think it is very annoying to read with and loses too many great things about reading a physical book with no gains except extra storage. For me, that doesn’t matter since I don’t carry more than 3, maybe 4 max, books and normally only one or two.

      One of the great joys in life is sliding a paperback into your jacket you can pull out on the train and not have to carry a bag around all night. Dont’ have much interest in carrying an expensive piece of machinery I risk breaking.

  71. Lincoln

      “I don’t for a moment subscribe to the notion that e-readers are going to replace books made of paper ”

      It is funny how only recently people have come around to this realization. People were so quick to hop on the trend and assume all artforms would follow music’s exact path that they it was pretty hard to find anyone who would think e-books weren’t going to completely rule the very near future only a year or two ago.

  72. Lincoln

      “I don’t for a moment subscribe to the notion that e-readers are going to replace books made of paper ”

      It is funny how only recently people have come around to this realization. People were so quick to hop on the trend and assume all artforms would follow music’s exact path that they it was pretty hard to find anyone who would think e-books weren’t going to completely rule the very near future only a year or two ago.

  73. Lonnie

      I’m just imagining after the printing press: “You know, I prefer to read things on scrolls that take monks years to copy.” “I know what you mean, but I prefer people to stand in front of me and read off of the page.”

  74. Lonnie

      I’m just imagining after the printing press: “You know, I prefer to read things on scrolls that take monks years to copy.” “I know what you mean, but I prefer people to stand in front of me and read off of the page.”

  75. Lincoln

      How do you like your Segway?

  76. Lincoln

      How do you like your Segway?

  77. Jhon Baker

      I’d offer up my left nut for my poetry to be available on the kindle, nook, iPad, ieverythingelse as well. My wife has a nook that I bought for her, she loves it and it is saving some space for more important books that are far more deserving of shelf space. She will read 2-3 books a week and now one of those are on the nook. Love it. It has already paid for itself and saved me money.

  78. Jhon Baker

      I’d offer up my left nut for my poetry to be available on the kindle, nook, iPad, ieverythingelse as well. My wife has a nook that I bought for her, she loves it and it is saving some space for more important books that are far more deserving of shelf space. She will read 2-3 books a week and now one of those are on the nook. Love it. It has already paid for itself and saved me money.

  79. mykle

      Blogs complaining about Kindles is like hipsters complaining about hipsters.

  80. mykle

      Blogs complaining about Kindles is like hipsters complaining about hipsters.

  81. ZZZZIPP

      EVEN THAT GRAPHIC IS COMFORTABLE ON THE EYES

      THIS WHITE LIGHT SCREEN BURNS

  82. ZZZZIPP

      EVEN THAT GRAPHIC IS COMFORTABLE ON THE EYES

      THIS WHITE LIGHT SCREEN BURNS

  83. LK

      #1 is exactly the thing that makes me think I’ll never get one: there’s no difference in the HEFT of reading War and Peace or Infinite Jest and Jesus’ Son or A Personal Matter. The weight of the pages, left and right, is like driving across country knowing you’ve traveled 1000 miles and have another 2000 to go.

      Also, I really dislike that, now when I see someone reading, I think s/he’s reading a Kindle instead of a book I’ve read and loved. Someone stopped me while I was walking and reading Infinite Jest and gushed about how he’d read it a few times, it’s his favorite book — an enlightening moment for me in terms of a new goal: write something that would inspire someone to stop someone else on the street. But if I were reading IJ on my Kindle, that sort of life-/literary-affirming interaction never would have happened. Also, if you’re reading on a Kindle in public, you’re providing free advertising for the device instead of the text.

  84. LK

      #1 is exactly the thing that makes me think I’ll never get one: there’s no difference in the HEFT of reading War and Peace or Infinite Jest and Jesus’ Son or A Personal Matter. The weight of the pages, left and right, is like driving across country knowing you’ve traveled 1000 miles and have another 2000 to go.

      Also, I really dislike that, now when I see someone reading, I think s/he’s reading a Kindle instead of a book I’ve read and loved. Someone stopped me while I was walking and reading Infinite Jest and gushed about how he’d read it a few times, it’s his favorite book — an enlightening moment for me in terms of a new goal: write something that would inspire someone to stop someone else on the street. But if I were reading IJ on my Kindle, that sort of life-/literary-affirming interaction never would have happened. Also, if you’re reading on a Kindle in public, you’re providing free advertising for the device instead of the text.

  85. Tim Horvath

      Yeah, man, if you’re reading Infinite Jest your Kindle ought to expand like a blooming onion or a book dunked in water.

      For a while no one I knew had finished IJ, and then one day I spotted a young woman close to the finish. She had less than a hundred pages to go. I approached her just to tip my hat to her, and she informed me that she had just started, was pursuing the footnotes (duh).

      Then again, it could be kind of interesting to see a copy of Infinite Jest the size of Jesus’ Son or vice-versa. All scale thrown.

      But yes, a streetstopper.

  86. Tim Horvath

      Yeah, man, if you’re reading Infinite Jest your Kindle ought to expand like a blooming onion or a book dunked in water.

      For a while no one I knew had finished IJ, and then one day I spotted a young woman close to the finish. She had less than a hundred pages to go. I approached her just to tip my hat to her, and she informed me that she had just started, was pursuing the footnotes (duh).

      Then again, it could be kind of interesting to see a copy of Infinite Jest the size of Jesus’ Son or vice-versa. All scale thrown.

      But yes, a streetstopper.

  87. dave e

      At a kids’ soccer game, I spotted another spectator carrying “The Things They Carried.” We got to talking and we’re still in touch, about 10 years later. Those moments don’t happen enough for me. I would have more such moments on the train every day if I liked Sue Grafton and James Patterson.

  88. dave e

      At a kids’ soccer game, I spotted another spectator carrying “The Things They Carried.” We got to talking and we’re still in touch, about 10 years later. Those moments don’t happen enough for me. I would have more such moments on the train every day if I liked Sue Grafton and James Patterson.

  89. Amber

      That’s because you ride the train in the DC corridor, just like me! :) That’s all I see, too. That and middle-aged women reading Twilight.

  90. Amber

      That’s because you ride the train in the DC corridor, just like me! :) That’s all I see, too. That and middle-aged women reading Twilight.

  91. Sean

      eat it

  92. Sean

      eat it

  93. zusya
  94. zusya
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  96. Donald

      You know HTMLGIANT writers like to complain about the use of exclamation marks because they’re so superfluous and the words should contain the whole impact of the writer’s intent in and of themselves? Well, sometimes it’s the same deal with all the attitude and snark you like to piss in gallons all over your meaning.

  97. Donald

      You know HTMLGIANT writers like to complain about the use of exclamation marks because they’re so superfluous and the words should contain the whole impact of the writer’s intent in and of themselves? Well, sometimes it’s the same deal with all the attitude and snark you like to piss in gallons all over your meaning.

  98. Matt Cozart

      what’s a gym?

  99. Matt Cozart

      what’s a gym?

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