January 30th, 2009 / 4:27 pm
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Power Quote: Natalie Dylan

So, with this value system firmly in place, I contacted the organization I felt could best provide me a safe and legal means through which to execute my idea: The Moonlite Bunny Ranch in Reno, Nevada.

– “Why I’m Selling My Virginity”

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10 Comments

  1. pr

      I want to buy her her virginity and give it to her to keep for some guy who doesn’t buy girls’ virginities. But I do not have 3.8 mil.

  2. julia cohen

      maybe the guy who has 3.8 mil also has an STD (which I assume she is smart enough to screen for) and then you’re back in the running for her virginity.

  3. julia cohen

      maybe the guy who has 3.8 mil also has an STD (which I assume she is smart enough to screen for) and then you’re back in the running for her virginity.

  4. pr

      I’d have herpes the rest of my life for 3.8 mil. I’d even take whatever you have to take to get rid of ghonarea or syphilis. I would not take AIDS for 3.8 mil. Vaginal warts? Bring it on for 3.8 mil. But fucking a guy who buys girls virginities I can’t get my head around. Not sure why. But that, I would not do.

  5. Justin Taylor

      pr- I wondered about who would buy such a thing as well. It seems like if this was really what you wanted, either as a unique experience of “taking virginity” or else because you’ve got a wicked cherry-popping fetish, there are about a million other better (I mean that solely in the context of this discussion of method and motivation) ways to go about obtaining this goal/experience.

      I think, therefore, that we should consider the possibility that some of Dylan’s bidders are motivated by more than simply the desire to ‘get’ the ‘thing’ she’s selling. You would think that they necessarily have to understand themselves as would-be collaborators in her project, and it **might** follow from this that they are interested in participating because they are interested in the theories and politics that she says inspire the project.

      I can’t really think of anything I’d rather ‘have’ less than somebody’s flower, especially since it’s not really something you can ‘have’ in any tangible sense of the notion of having–which of course is Dylan’s whole point. But if money were really no object for me, I can imagine a scenario wherein I might attempt to participate in her project. According to her essay, she won’t necessarily go with the highest bidder, so there’s a sort of reality-show element to it also. I actually think that, as a matter of theory, this is sort of a weak point, since if she intends to make an economic point then she should employ the most rigorous economic principles to make that point. On the other hand, a company entertaining various bids for a project to build their new headquarters they will consider a whole range of issues besides the dollar-value of the bid: does the bidder seem trustworthy, do they have references, if it’s a creative project (which of course both sex and architecture are) does the bidder bring a set of aesthetics that interest us, etc etc etc. And maybe you go with the not-best-number because of other factors.

      I guess if I really wanted to put my [no] money where my mouth is, I would enter a bid of zero dollars, accompanied by a letter articulating why I think Dylan’s maidenhead should not be sold at all, but should be offered to me in the context of an experience we’ll share and a memory we’ll both cherish. Or, from a less sentimental and more theory-driven perspective, I could argue that the only way to truly make the political point she’s trying to make is to take all the attention focused on her right now and disappoint/enrage it. By fucking me for no money, she can strike out at the rotten cultural values that make her enterprise possible, and which, if she sees it through as planned, she will have succesfully “exposed” but still only in a real sense have reinforced, instead of subverting.

      Those are just thoughts that came through my head. I’m not too sure about any of this stuff, and, for the record, I’m not entering the auction.

  6. Justin Taylor

      pr- I wondered about who would buy such a thing as well. It seems like if this was really what you wanted, either as a unique experience of “taking virginity” or else because you’ve got a wicked cherry-popping fetish, there are about a million other better (I mean that solely in the context of this discussion of method and motivation) ways to go about obtaining this goal/experience.

      I think, therefore, that we should consider the possibility that some of Dylan’s bidders are motivated by more than simply the desire to ‘get’ the ‘thing’ she’s selling. You would think that they necessarily have to understand themselves as would-be collaborators in her project, and it **might** follow from this that they are interested in participating because they are interested in the theories and politics that she says inspire the project.

      I can’t really think of anything I’d rather ‘have’ less than somebody’s flower, especially since it’s not really something you can ‘have’ in any tangible sense of the notion of having–which of course is Dylan’s whole point. But if money were really no object for me, I can imagine a scenario wherein I might attempt to participate in her project. According to her essay, she won’t necessarily go with the highest bidder, so there’s a sort of reality-show element to it also. I actually think that, as a matter of theory, this is sort of a weak point, since if she intends to make an economic point then she should employ the most rigorous economic principles to make that point. On the other hand, a company entertaining various bids for a project to build their new headquarters they will consider a whole range of issues besides the dollar-value of the bid: does the bidder seem trustworthy, do they have references, if it’s a creative project (which of course both sex and architecture are) does the bidder bring a set of aesthetics that interest us, etc etc etc. And maybe you go with the not-best-number because of other factors.

      I guess if I really wanted to put my [no] money where my mouth is, I would enter a bid of zero dollars, accompanied by a letter articulating why I think Dylan’s maidenhead should not be sold at all, but should be offered to me in the context of an experience we’ll share and a memory we’ll both cherish. Or, from a less sentimental and more theory-driven perspective, I could argue that the only way to truly make the political point she’s trying to make is to take all the attention focused on her right now and disappoint/enrage it. By fucking me for no money, she can strike out at the rotten cultural values that make her enterprise possible, and which, if she sees it through as planned, she will have succesfully “exposed” but still only in a real sense have reinforced, instead of subverting.

      Those are just thoughts that came through my head. I’m not too sure about any of this stuff, and, for the record, I’m not entering the auction.

  7. pr

      Pretty Baby? When Brooke Shields, all of 13, was served up on a platter? Many old men love 13 year old virgins. So do many young men.

      Justin- you can get much better tail than that. ( This part I was gonna delete, but I have kept it in to show MY SIN- attention people, I am about to hate myself for my unkindness!!!!- She’s probably as attractive as Spitzer’s 1000 dollar an hour hooker. Which is to say- Eeeew. Jersey mall rat, nose job, great taste in clothes!!, boobs about to fall down to her knees, nipples the size of dinner plates. Man, make her pay YOU to fuck the poor bitch.)

      I find men who pay for sex disgusting. That is my personal opinion- I don’t have any other issues- short, tall, black, white, young, old, rich, poor, OK, yes, I just love men- just don’t be a hooker fucker. Perhaps there are exceptions. I’m sure there are. But this scenario will not present one of those exceptions. I totally disagree that any man is doing it to be part of “her” social experiment. Perhaps some man is doing it to be famous in some “this is gonna be huge” sort of way, but that is different. I also believe in a corrupted soul. So I know that makes me half retarded.

      Write her the letter about how she should fuck you for free. Post it here. I bet you could make a good philosophical argument, if you have the time. I like that idea. My only problem with that is- do you want to do it to “save” her? Hmmm. Only she can save herself.

      Anyway, I think she’ll go for the 3.8 mil. And how much does the pimp at the ranch get? Half? She better go for the highest bidder.

      If this is her way of trying to find a rich boyfriend, she can go the way of Anna Nicole Smith then, poor thing. The truth is, my sister’s bff is a high class prosititute (she’s fucked woody allen- recenlty) and it’s like being with an empty wooden box being with her. It terrifies me. She is -like other whores of different stripes- one of the things that convinces me of morals and “God”. Because when you stare into the absence of It, you can really believe in It. It does matter, how we live our lives. I realize how old-fashioned that makes me. And believe me, my life is a sorrowful mess of regrets. But – not so calculated regrets? I don’t know. Maybe I’m being dishonest with myself. Human behavior is fascinating and always worthy of compassion. I guess that’s where I should try to make my brain go right now.

  8. pr

      Pretty Baby? When Brooke Shields, all of 13, was served up on a platter? Many old men love 13 year old virgins. So do many young men.

      Justin- you can get much better tail than that. ( This part I was gonna delete, but I have kept it in to show MY SIN- attention people, I am about to hate myself for my unkindness!!!!- She’s probably as attractive as Spitzer’s 1000 dollar an hour hooker. Which is to say- Eeeew. Jersey mall rat, nose job, great taste in clothes!!, boobs about to fall down to her knees, nipples the size of dinner plates. Man, make her pay YOU to fuck the poor bitch.)

      I find men who pay for sex disgusting. That is my personal opinion- I don’t have any other issues- short, tall, black, white, young, old, rich, poor, OK, yes, I just love men- just don’t be a hooker fucker. Perhaps there are exceptions. I’m sure there are. But this scenario will not present one of those exceptions. I totally disagree that any man is doing it to be part of “her” social experiment. Perhaps some man is doing it to be famous in some “this is gonna be huge” sort of way, but that is different. I also believe in a corrupted soul. So I know that makes me half retarded.

      Write her the letter about how she should fuck you for free. Post it here. I bet you could make a good philosophical argument, if you have the time. I like that idea. My only problem with that is- do you want to do it to “save” her? Hmmm. Only she can save herself.

      Anyway, I think she’ll go for the 3.8 mil. And how much does the pimp at the ranch get? Half? She better go for the highest bidder.

      If this is her way of trying to find a rich boyfriend, she can go the way of Anna Nicole Smith then, poor thing. The truth is, my sister’s bff is a high class prosititute (she’s fucked woody allen- recenlty) and it’s like being with an empty wooden box being with her. It terrifies me. She is -like other whores of different stripes- one of the things that convinces me of morals and “God”. Because when you stare into the absence of It, you can really believe in It. It does matter, how we live our lives. I realize how old-fashioned that makes me. And believe me, my life is a sorrowful mess of regrets. But – not so calculated regrets? I don’t know. Maybe I’m being dishonest with myself. Human behavior is fascinating and always worthy of compassion. I guess that’s where I should try to make my brain go right now.

  9. Justin Taylor

      I love love love you, pr. I’ve never seen Pretty Baby, but I’ll throw it on the netflix and get back to you.

      And no, I don’t want to ‘save’ her from anything, or really be involved with her and/or this cause at all. I was just working through the various permutations of the idea.

      It would be interesting to try and write that letter, but not interesting enough to actually expend the energy on doing it.

  10. Justin Taylor

      I love love love you, pr. I’ve never seen Pretty Baby, but I’ll throw it on the netflix and get back to you.

      And no, I don’t want to ‘save’ her from anything, or really be involved with her and/or this cause at all. I was just working through the various permutations of the idea.

      It would be interesting to try and write that letter, but not interesting enough to actually expend the energy on doing it.