October 27th, 2009 / 12:44 pm
Mean
Hipster Autophobia
Hipster Tilley by Johnny Zito
I’m tired of hipsters saying they hate hipsters. Every time I read some rant on how hipsters suck I realize I’m reading it in a journal or website written by and for hipsters. Self-hating narcissistic hipsters somehow think they are immune to the vague and broad fallacies of hipsterdom. What deepens this ingrown pathology and paranoia is that self-denying hipsters often subconsciously enjoy being called hipsters, because in some weird way it’s a compliment. This is not a defense of hipsterdom, but an afriendly suggestion that maybe we’re all in the same goddamn pond.
Hipsterdom’s got something do to with an impenetrable irony which results in shallowness, affectedness, smugness, etc. — but aren’t those just judgment calls, like things people have been calling other people forever? Jane Austen and Evelyn Waugh’s been calling out people like that for ages. Hipsterdom may be a new word, but pettiness is timeless.
Case in point with the now infamous article from Adbusters, the quasi-subversive academic yet highly stylized magazine which I can’t help but flip through for the shocking photos. Douglas Haddow, author of said article’s personal flickr is littered with hipster paraphernalia: Pabst beer, Japanese culture, messy studio flats, chicks with weird hair cuts, cheap sunglasses, chronic loitering, etc. He also writes for Vice and a bunch of design blogs. Totally cool, really — seems like a nice life, good for you Doug, seriously, but hey, I don’t quite understand the angst towards your own peoples.
Christian Lorentzen’s article in Time Out New York rings of a sort of exclusionary “jock mentality,” wherein he calls out “fake” hipsters for not being an artist or musician, but some broker or lawyer (here he is [right] in a tux with a scotch rocks at a New York Times award ceremony). I love it when the incumbent gentry cry about gentrification. The Class issue gets all murky, as the nobility of being broke — whether it be artist/writer [sans] salary incurred, or hipster ‘ironic’ blue-collar — is posited by both sides; all the while one’s class is assessed by materialism, inextricably tying this discourse to capitalism, which both parties somehow consider themselves immune to.
n+1’s “What Was the Hipster” panel symposium earlier this year claimed in their press memo they were “[...] free enough of the hipster taint to write the hipster’s history without contempt or nostalgia [...]” They qualify hipster with ‘taint,’ then immediately say ‘without contempt.’ I couldn’t make it, but I have a good feeling they ripped hipsters apart, with legs crossed, pensive and dour, on a stage somewhere while iPhones vibrated perkier news. Again, nothing against being solemn n’ awesome, but dang bros you guys are hipsters (maybe not the “kitschy 80’s” hipster, but mos def the Brooklyn smarty-pants type).
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Google “self hating” and the suggested appendages are ‘jew,’ ‘black,’ ‘asian,’ and ‘white.’ Autophobia is nothing new. Pigs bite the tails of pigs in front of them; vicinity is the greatest recipe for derision. Sorry for the Orwellian allusion, I’m just having such a swine time. I guess the implicit question here is what about HTMLGIANT? Is it not hypocritical to call others hypocritical about calling others hipsters when we in fact may be accused of either said hypocrisy or hipsterdom? I’ve spent way too much time perusing the blogs of our commenters and yah, many of you lovely people are hipsters. That’s okay, really. Nice tattoo. Nice subscription to that obscure journal nobody reads. Nice fucked up mattress not parallel to any walls. It’s a nice life, and “nice life” is the key phrase here — because the other name for hipster is bourgeois. Forget about your music taste, or how much your t-shirts costs, we are bourgeois through and through. The middle-class work, the lower-class die, and the upper-class scrutinize other people’s culture, like we are doing here. Just to clarify, I’m not above any of my indictments.
I hate Pabst Blue Ribbon’s simplistic and indulgent economic symbolism. Political, generational, and cultural disfranchisement is a nice PR campaign, but just get a job and you can afford the nice beer. Stop talking about class. The self-hating hipster is still in the making, though I suspect a wiki entry very soon (this is what happens when friends edit friends). And say hi to everyone at the next party you go to, before that awful band starts screaming.
Tags: Adbusters, hipsters, n+1
this was a lot of over typing in a circle. topic is boring.
i look forward to the typing of a less boring topic.
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October 27th, 2009 / 12:56 pmBlake Butler—
uh oh jimmy
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:02 pmJimmy Chen—
wow, a comment from ellen frances. i’m moving to new york.
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:25 pmEllen Frances—
it just seems a case of dead horse being re-beaten.
thoughtfulness wasted on a silly topic… lovely writerly skills deserve better.
not that you care, but your personal website is excellent.
when are you moving?
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:32 pmmimi—
Jimmy, you are so lucky, because you have lovely writerly skills. Please do not move to New York. Do you want to know what *mimi* thinks about your personal website? Because if so I will go check it out and let you know.
October 27th, 2009 / 1:32 pmJimmy Chen—
the dead-horse beating thing did occur to me. i guess i thought it was a little different cos it wasn’t against hipsters, but the dissent towards them that made it arguably relevant.
Gentrification sucks, the hipsters can only park on my fucking street now.
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i like Christian Lorentzen, he’s funny
i also like yr idea of stopping talking about class altogether
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:11 pmAmber—
Why? Does it make you uncomfortable?
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:12 pmBlake Butler—
just don’t see the value.
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:13 pmBlake Butler—
please respond by saying that this is because i am privileged white male living in america.
October 27th, 2009 / 1:19 pmAmber—
Nope. Knee jerk response denied. I was just curious. I’m interested in reading stuff that has to do with class, as long as the take is fresh and non-pedantic–and hey, I’m a privileged white female.
October 27th, 2009 / 1:24 pmBlake Butler—
:)
what the hell is a hipster?
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Look at this fucking hipster.
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:27 pmAmber—
Awesomeness.
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i thought this was going to be about hipsters and cars. sheesh.
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I tried to write about hipster literature a few months ago, but I couldn’t stand reading the material so I had to abandon the project. Realism is boring enough without boringness as part of the content.
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:48 pmdrew kalbach—
what do you consider hipster literature? i’m honestly not sure what applies to that term.
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:59 pmNathan Tyree—
I’m in the same boat. I have no idea what hipster literature is
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October 27th, 2009 / 2:06 pma moorad—
any book purchased at urban outfitters.
October 27th, 2009 / 2:09 pmstu—
I think you can find it next to “fratire” in your local bookstore.
October 27th, 2009 / 4:09 pmNathan Tyree—
oh. so boring crap, then
October 27th, 2009 / 7:08 pmlorian—
urban outfitters sells nabokov
October 27th, 2009 / 1:52 pmMichael James—
ha!
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I think I’m too old to be considered a hipster anymore, but yeah… I’m glad you acknowledge yourself among the hipsters. HTMLGiant pretty much defines hipster.
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:55 pmAdam Robinson—
never too old
it’s just that you wear bad pants
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October 27th, 2009 / 1:58 pmShane Jones—
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cryptster
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October 27th, 2009 / 2:01 pmClapper—
I need to go get an STD!
October 27th, 2009 / 2:02 pmEllen Frances—
ha! good comment = def still a favorite plus extra good commenting points x 2
October 27th, 2009 / 2:18 pmjames yeh—
heh
October 27th, 2009 / 2:16 pmTim Jones-Yelvington—
part of hipster culture is actively disidentifying w/ the term. I’ve been told I can’t qualify as a “true hipster” if I call myself one.
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October 27th, 2009 / 2:30 pmstu—
I think it depends on how seriously a subculture’s adherents take its ethos (Actually, I have to laugh at that). The “punk” subculture generally follows that same trend. If you have to announce your “punkness,” you are decidedly not a punk. It might also depend on whether or not one would rather label or be labeled.
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“Nice fucked up mattress not parallel to any walls” is the name of my new dadaist afrobeat ensemble
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October 27th, 2009 / 5:30 pmmike—
damn yeah for real
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November 9th, 2009 / 12:45 pmAnna—
yes.
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So angsty over something so trivial and boring. Dead horse indeed. Some people are broke, and slackers, and in debt, not caring much about anything, and like the taste of PBR, and are too busy living life than trying to think about ‘the image’ other people are giving ‘them’. I dunno. I don’t get the whole thing. I am a ‘hipster’ though, I suppose. I’ve been called this. I don’t deny it. I’d rather drink pabst at a house party in San Francisco and listen to a new band I don’t know with people actually dancing instead of pay 20 bucks for a show with expensive booze for a band I think I heard before where people are too scared to move.
But…..I also know trust fund babies who try to live this sort of life on purpose. So it goes both ways.
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October 27th, 2009 / 3:14 pmJustin Rands—
oh, and just for kicks
http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/musicvideo/3749-girls-lust-for-life-true-panther-sounds
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Hey – thanks for reminding me I had that flickr account, haven’t updated in ages.
Cheers,
DH
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there is no way for me to type the intended sincerity into this statement, so you’ll just have to take my word for it: i love hipsters.
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what the hell is a hipster? I still need to know
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i drink pbr and i have a real job and could potentially afford beer that costs more than pbr BUT
let’s be honest here
if i am drinking it is probably because i want to be drunk
i can get a six pack of pbr for $3.40 including tax
why would i get anything else?
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October 28th, 2009 / 12:25 amAngi—
Word.
I really like PBR, better than any other cheap beer.
I think I fall somewhere into the hipster category and am not offended by that term. But then I also kind of fail at it because I really don’t give a shit what music anyone else listens to or whether my favorite things are more obscure than yours.
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October 28th, 2009 / 8:41 pmCATHARTICA—
I’m not getting the PBR reference. That’s an excellent price for beer though! My God! Over here in Honolulu, when I pay a Safeway Club Card price of 6.99 for a 6-pack of Kirin, I feel like I just got the deal of the century!
$3.40 including tax?!? Unreal!
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i think the most relevant question here is where the hell can i get an i <3 blogs pin? i would wear that.
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October 28th, 2009 / 1:16 amgena—
hi niina, i like how your name is spelled.
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October 28th, 2009 / 1:16 amgena—
but it’s mean week, so i guess i should be saying…fuck your name?
:)
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October 28th, 2009 / 10:15 amniina—
hey, thanks! i hate your name too. let’s be frenemies.
I’ve been on this site for at least three hours and I still don’t understand what’s going on.
It’s either a place to throw faeces at writers or to throw other things (rocks, maybe?) at writers. I don’t get it.
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stfu while I cordon off the area. Actually, I wouldn’t even begin to know how to cordon off an area or even what to cordon it off with. Oh, wait–yellow tape. But who has access to that stuff besides cops and coroners?
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I posted a comment on face book about dirty hipsters yesterday actually after complaining about dirty hipster literature. I saw Nathaniel Hawthrone’s The Scarlet Letter at Urban Outfitters and became severely confused and kind of outraged hence my facebook thing. Then I was swarmed with commentary on
How I am the queen bee hipster. Then I became confused. Really? All my friends think I’m a dirty hipster?
This was slightly disconcerting.
Here is why we as people get so goddamn offended by this: no one really wants to be slumped into a category
Where you are made out to be like everyone else. The worst thing about this is taking things that are actually pretty
Awesome ie J.D Salinger, antiques and not showering for five days-and making them some sort of a fashion trend.
The whole thing is weird.
Maybe I should have tried to explain myself at 5am on my blackberry on my futon below my Diane Arbus print.
I appreciate the irony of this blog. I can’t believe no one mentioned that part yet. That probably was the best part about it. Well done.
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