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from M. Baumer
to Justin Taylor
date Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:13 AM
subject a note from thieves jargon
mailed-by gmail.com

Hello Justin Taylor,

I am one of the fiction editors at Thieves Jargon.  I was going to write a big thing about Thieves Jargon and Matt DiGangi after I read your HTML post today.  I don’t think I’m upset. I think I most agree with Sam Pink.  Similar to Zachary German I used to not care for Sam Pink until about a week ago.  I was thrown off by his blog.  Anyway, I wanted to get across to you that I think Matt has done some really good things with Thieves Jargon.  He’s been at it for five years.  He started it back when the internet was still good.  I don’t know what that means.  Someone once said, “The internet died two years ago.”  I don’t know what they meant by this.  I can only guess.  They said this to me one year ago.  Three years ago the internet was still alive?  Maybe it’s because I don’t like to read comments.  Today made me feel a little nauseous.
I believe BB is a good person.  I know Matt is.  The internet makes people different.  I don’t think there is a right and wrong here.  I am being cliche or a pussy.  Someone should apologize.  I will.  “I’m sorry.  It’s my fault.  I think I was born out of wedlock.”
I feel like I’m doing a bad impression of Sam Pink.  Fuck…Bitch…Lewd sexual movements in Langston Hughes face?
I don’t know where else to go with this.  You know when you’re watching a movie and you can see the trainwreck coming and you tense up and want to kick the characters in the head because it’s pretty obvious what’s going to happen next.  I don’t think this is like that.  I don’t think it matters that much.
Maybe I will go to your house some day in a pair of jeans and a flannel shirt or a t-shirt.  That’s my threat.  I hope you’re scared.  You can tell all the contributors to HTML GIANT the same goes for them except for Jimmy Chen.  If I was going to Jimmy Chen’s house I would make a cake.  I have a very easy cake recipe.  You only need soda and cake mix.  Don’t tell Jimmy.  I don’t want him to be disappointed in my cake.
Fuck, I feel like making Mr. DiGangi a cake.  I think he deserves one.  BB could probably use one.  You should make him one.
Both of them wake up in the morning.  DiGangi posts the daily Thieves Jargon story.  BB probably looks at a Lost Highway poster or something.  DiGangi gets on the subway and reads a book that probably no one else around him has heard of.  The mailman probably thinks BB is a terrorist receiving airplane manuals.  DiGangi works all day publishing boring textbooks, then he goes to class, comes home, does homework, and Thieves Jargon editor duties.  BB probably writes a novel in that time.  Etc.  Etc. Etc.
I don’t know what else to say.  I’ve rambled on and said nothing.
Just know I was serious about my threat.  I’ve rejected people in person before.  I’ve gone to people’s houses and knocked on their doors and said, “Hello, I’m from Thieves Jargon.”
I’m glad today happened.
Everyone should cheer.
Hail DiGangi.
I don’t know what else to think.

-Mark Baumer

www.thievesjargon.com
www.everydayyeah.com

 

 

Gee, that was random.

 

********BONUS********* JUSTIN TAYLOR REPLIES:

rom Justin Taylor
to “M. Baumer”
date Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:33 AM
subject Re: a note from thieves jargon
mailed-by gmail.com

Hi, Mark, thanks for writing. I don’t really know what to make of your letter. To be honest, it doesn’t seem like it should have been addressed to me. It’s not exactly about any of the things I wrote about in my recent blog post, which itself was rather explicit about being somewhat predicated by, but hardly “about,” Matt DiGangi and Thieves Jargon–two entities about which I know very little, and not for lack of opportunity either.

I’m sorry that Matt has to edit boring textbooks. We must, all of us, do something. For example, I have to think of lesson plans and commute to New Jersey twice a week to teach my class, and then I have to grade my students’ papers. Let me tell you, brother, it’s no walk in the park, although I do get to walk through campus, which has many park-like qualities. Also, sometimes the students write things that are very funny. Typically, they have not done so on purpose.

Speaking of which, I have no idea what “when the internet was still good” means, but then I’m not the one who said it. Since you’re the one who said it, it is discomforting to know that you don’t know what it means either. Do you often make declarations incomprehensible even to yourself and then send them off in personal letters to strangers?

Personally, I think shoelaces both got really lame in the mid-90s, but they seem to have really re-emerged during the last year or two, totally transformed and ready to assert their relevance–even necessity, perhaps–to the culture. I can’t wait to see what happens with shoelaces next.

In closing, I wish that I could promise to keep your secret about the simplicity of your cake recipe from Jimmy, but the fact of the matter is that I’m almost certainly going to post your letter and my response (that is, this letter which I’m writing right now) on HTMLGiant later this afternoon, or possibly even this morning, so I guess he’ll probably learn the truth that way.

JT

 

************DOUBLE YOUR BONUS*********

M. BAUMER REPLIES TO THE REPLY:

 

from M. Baumer
to Justin Taylor 
date Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:52 PM
subject Re: a note from thieves jargon
mailed-by gmail.com

 

Hey Justin,

I give you permission to post my email without my permission.
Please include this:
I also want to say something about BB that makes fun of the way he gets off or something, but I am not very good at shit talking.  
Justin, I think you want me to kill myself.  ‘Shoelaces’ was my self-termination code word when I was created as a sad pot of soup on the back left burner.  Then some family ate me.
I honestly think lots of people would consider being gay with BB’s blogspot account.  I guess this is a compliment.  Sometimes I worry about saying anything bad about BB and any other expert bloggers because in the back of my head I think, “If they kill themselves someone in the future will read this comment of me calling them a ‘shitfuck’ and then they’ll google my name and find my address and come to my house via google maps and dump un-erasable spam on my front lawn and my wife will say, ‘how could you say that?’ and then stop talking to me over gchat and i’ll marriage will be over.”
Oh well.
To Blake
“You’re a shitfuck.  Don’t kill yourself.”

 

 

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100 Comments

  1. peter b

      we all get scared sometimes. And self-conscious. this is what you get when you combine funny and sad.

  2. barry

      justin, my man, you gotta let this go. the only thing that wasnt pointless and ridiculous about this post was the picture of nicole ritchie.

      it cant be good for your health anymore to keep caring about that.

  3. peter b

      we all get scared sometimes. And self-conscious. this is what you get when you combine funny and sad.

  4. barry

      justin, my man, you gotta let this go. the only thing that wasnt pointless and ridiculous about this post was the picture of nicole ritchie.

      it cant be good for your health anymore to keep caring about that.

  5. barry

      i take that back….

      velcro is the new internet

  6. barry

      i take that back….

      velcro is the new internet

  7. peter berghoef

      for real

  8. peter berghoef

      when velcro was still good

  9. peter berghoef

      for real

  10. peter berghoef

      when velcro was still good

  11. Justin Taylor

      barry- i’m just a guy who wakes up in the morning and checks his email.

  12. Justin Taylor

      barry- i’m just a guy who wakes up in the morning and checks his email.

  13. Justin Taylor

      also, i think the guy in the squid suit is the star of this post. between him and the bear suit and the pig mask, HTMLGiant fucking rules animal costumes today. Someone tell Tao Lin he’s been totally pwned by the Giant.

      (You don’t really have to do that last thing- I’ll tell him myself.)

  14. Justin Taylor

      also, i think the guy in the squid suit is the star of this post. between him and the bear suit and the pig mask, HTMLGiant fucking rules animal costumes today. Someone tell Tao Lin he’s been totally pwned by the Giant.

      (You don’t really have to do that last thing- I’ll tell him myself.)

  15. Blake Butler

      i’ve never turned down a cake in my life

  16. Blake Butler

      i’ve never turned down a cake in my life

  17. pr

      I liked the seriousness of Justin’s earlier post on this because I do believe in integrity and the lack of it. I don’t understand Ryan- whose story I really liked in the Tyrant- saying this isn’t any interesting discussion. I do understand Barry saying to “let go”. But man, BB doesn’t owe anyone an apology. I don’t care how great TG is- you don’t “unpublish” someone because you are angry at them. My twelve yr old is more mature than that.

  18. barry

      pr:
      i agree, unpublishing something is shitty. i agree with everything you say. my affection for you is abstruse.

      my concern about this post is for justin. he’s a good guy, i dont want his blood pressure affected by this shit. he needs his health to check emails.

      i love everyone who reads this (sam i am forever indebted to you for that line. it is the only line that ive ever read that i am envious that i did not right myself)

  19. barry

      pr:
      i agree, unpublishing something is shitty. i agree with everything you say. my affection for you is abstruse.

      my concern about this post is for justin. he’s a good guy, i dont want his blood pressure affected by this shit. he needs his health to check emails.

      i love everyone who reads this (sam i am forever indebted to you for that line. it is the only line that ive ever read that i am envious that i did not right myself)

  20. Blake Butler

      barry, your new mastery of ‘abstruse’ brings a tear of lovejoy to my mind

  21. Blake Butler

      barry, your new mastery of ‘abstruse’ brings a tear of lovejoy to my mind

  22. pr

      I love all the horseshitting around here, but sometimes, you know, let’s not fuck around. (OK, not often). Justin is good for that. I think it calms him to write out well thought, sensible shit. It’s good for his blood pressure! And as much as Sam makes me want to rub ointment on his wounds and heat up some Cambell’s for him, sometimes, there is a right and a wrong. But I heart Sam. And you too, Barry….

  23. barry

      pr:

      i agree wit what youa re saying 100 percent, but i just cant understand for the lif eof me what good it did or who ro what it benefitted for justin to post this. really? thats all im saying. im not trying to fuck around, im being sincere. no matter how i say things, im always sincere.

  24. barry

      pr:

      i agree wit what youa re saying 100 percent, but i just cant understand for the lif eof me what good it did or who ro what it benefitted for justin to post this. really? thats all im saying. im not trying to fuck around, im being sincere. no matter how i say things, im always sincere.

  25. pr

      this post of his is silliness. his other post i thought was important. I am sincere, too. it’s not ok to unpublish someone. i liked how serious he contemplated the responsibilities of being an editor. i liked his discussion of the difference of being a writer and an editor. i liked his discussion of “currency”. i liked his last post so much. i do think this one didn’t do much to further that discussion. but i think his last discussion was a very good one.

  26. barry

      i agree. you said what i wanted to say, only better.

  27. barry

      i agree. you said what i wanted to say, only better.

  28. pr

      pr and bg = love

  29. jereme

      i disagree with letting this shit go.

      letting shit go is weakness. weakness is not a fashionable trait.

      It was let go. Baumer antagonized justin by sending him an email.

      i think it was squashed until now.

      what i don’t understand is how childish people get over not getting linked.

      boo fucking hoo.

      if your shit is good, people will come. why is it BB responsibility to link some one just because they want to be linked? it doesn’t fit his aesthetic. he is the fucking editor.

      fuck you all.

      double fuck you all.

      i’m tired of people acting like anger is not a real emotion. some times it is okay to be angry. you were born with this emotion. it is real. do not let it consume you. expressing it is healthy though.

  30. jereme

      i disagree with letting this shit go.

      letting shit go is weakness. weakness is not a fashionable trait.

      It was let go. Baumer antagonized justin by sending him an email.

      i think it was squashed until now.

      what i don’t understand is how childish people get over not getting linked.

      boo fucking hoo.

      if your shit is good, people will come. why is it BB responsibility to link some one just because they want to be linked? it doesn’t fit his aesthetic. he is the fucking editor.

      fuck you all.

      double fuck you all.

      i’m tired of people acting like anger is not a real emotion. some times it is okay to be angry. you were born with this emotion. it is real. do not let it consume you. expressing it is healthy though.

  31. barry

      i think its ok to be angry and i think its ok to express, but i think it is stupid to hold on to anger until it starts affecting you physically, mentally, emotionally, spirtually, etc. then its just not worth it. be angry, epress anger, but dont let it consume you, then its extra baggage you have to carry around and i may be wrong, i am quite often, but that shit just doesnt make sense to me. it may work well for someone else, but it doesnt for me. that’s all i got to say about that.

  32. barry

      i think its ok to be angry and i think its ok to express, but i think it is stupid to hold on to anger until it starts affecting you physically, mentally, emotionally, spirtually, etc. then its just not worth it. be angry, epress anger, but dont let it consume you, then its extra baggage you have to carry around and i may be wrong, i am quite often, but that shit just doesnt make sense to me. it may work well for someone else, but it doesnt for me. that’s all i got to say about that.

  33. jereme

      barry,

      triple fuck you.

      that is what i said.

  34. jereme

      barry,

      triple fuck you.

      that is what i said.

  35. pr

      I think that Jereme said some great stuff about this. He called TJ editor late on the post saying something to the extent of “you are digging a bigger hole for yourself” and I agreed. But I d agree with Barry that at a certain point, you haveto let go. I don’t think that Justin was at that point, though. I think Justin was CALM. And smart and right in is well thought out argument. But I do know, from some experience, that there does come a time to let go. It’s not weakenss. It’s smart. More on that another time. barry and jereme…..

  36. barry

      a triple fuck.. nice. does that mean i get to stick it in three seperate orifices.

  37. barry

      a triple fuck.. nice. does that mean i get to stick it in three seperate orifices.

  38. jereme

      yes pr.

      i agree.

      in the real world i would probably hit matt over the head with a beer bottle or something and it would be let go.

      or he would beat me and it would be let go.

      that is the problem with writer nerds though. most do not live in the real world. they keep antagonizing people because they have not lived in the real world where your mouth will get you broken teeth.

      i am not being a tough guy. i am expressing my views.

      regardless, i feel now that i am part of a gang. not a lame gang like in west side story but a cool gang like in the outsiders.

      jimmy chen is pony boy.

      now let’s start stabbing some fucking preps and get this shit on.

  39. jereme

      yes pr.

      i agree.

      in the real world i would probably hit matt over the head with a beer bottle or something and it would be let go.

      or he would beat me and it would be let go.

      that is the problem with writer nerds though. most do not live in the real world. they keep antagonizing people because they have not lived in the real world where your mouth will get you broken teeth.

      i am not being a tough guy. i am expressing my views.

      regardless, i feel now that i am part of a gang. not a lame gang like in west side story but a cool gang like in the outsiders.

      jimmy chen is pony boy.

      now let’s start stabbing some fucking preps and get this shit on.

  40. jimmy chen

      i’m so tired by all this.

      blake justin matt mark: i would like to have a beer with you all, just after a lobotomy.

      ‘punk rock died when the first kid said punk’s not dead’ -silver jews

      this is the last thing i have to say about this. my comment is exactly what sam pink posted.

  41. jimmy chen

      i’m so tired by all this.

      blake justin matt mark: i would like to have a beer with you all, just after a lobotomy.

      ‘punk rock died when the first kid said punk’s not dead’ -silver jews

      this is the last thing i have to say about this. my comment is exactly what sam pink posted.

  42. jereme

      barry,

      yes, twice if you’d like.

      jimmy,

      i am sorry that you are tired of this. i know i can be over the top. i am a little surprised more people are not taking this personally.

      i guess it is because it was not one of your stories that was removed spitefully.

      it was blake’s

      the guy who promotes other writers tirelessly on his blog

      the guy who genuinely cares for independent literature

      the guy who has helped other’s out countless times

      but it is okay. it is okay to ignore what happened because it is easier.

      easy allows us to act like nothing happened and go back to worrying about ourselves and not offending people because it will help us get published and not offend editors.

      it is okay to not stand up for things.

      it is okay.

  43. jereme

      barry,

      yes, twice if you’d like.

      jimmy,

      i am sorry that you are tired of this. i know i can be over the top. i am a little surprised more people are not taking this personally.

      i guess it is because it was not one of your stories that was removed spitefully.

      it was blake’s

      the guy who promotes other writers tirelessly on his blog

      the guy who genuinely cares for independent literature

      the guy who has helped other’s out countless times

      but it is okay. it is okay to ignore what happened because it is easier.

      easy allows us to act like nothing happened and go back to worrying about ourselves and not offending people because it will help us get published and not offend editors.

      it is okay to not stand up for things.

      it is okay.

  44. Justin Taylor

      Jimmy- You know Louisville is death. That’s why we’ve got to move. Because the dead do not improve. Marry me–leave Kentucky. Come to Tennessee.

      [beat]
      [beat]
      [beat]

      cuz yr the only ten i seeeeeeee.

  45. Justin Taylor

      Jimmy- You know Louisville is death. That’s why we’ve got to move. Because the dead do not improve. Marry me–leave Kentucky. Come to Tennessee.

      [beat]
      [beat]
      [beat]

      cuz yr the only ten i seeeeeeee.

  46. DiGang

      Sam Pink as Jesus Christ.

      Mark Baumer as Moses.

      Jereme as Onan.

      Blake Butler as Onan’s sweatsock.

      DiGang as the prodigal son.

      Jimmy Chen as Rodney King.

  47. DiGang

      Sam Pink as Jesus Christ.

      Mark Baumer as Moses.

      Jereme as Onan.

      Blake Butler as Onan’s sweatsock.

      DiGang as the prodigal son.

      Jimmy Chen as Rodney King.

  48. Justin Taylor

      also- further proof that ‘pr’ is the on-pointest lady ever: yes, exactly. i had more fun writing that response email and looking for images like that squid i found than just about anything else i did today. it was really funny and enjoyable to me. i felt good about the jokes i made. if any of my students had actually come to my office hours, they would have discovered me enjoying myself way too much. good thing none of them did. KIDS IF YOU’RE READING THIS YOUR FINAL IS TUESDAY AND WE ARE *SO* NOT FUCKING AROUND ANYMORE SO STOP READING THIS AND GO STUDY. But Barry does have a point also, I think, which is that I generally sound much more serious and/or agitated than I really am.

      I am much more “emotionally invested” in a post like the one I made about Joshua Cohen, which I think got exactly one comment—–pr’s. Truth is, I made both posts at the same time, and decided to save this one for later, to give dude a chance to respond and also to give the Cohen post some breathing room, because that is actually interesting, as was–I think/hope–the post yesterday about editors. This was just ass-clownery.

      It was also, in a certain sense, fair play I think. Dude emailed me. I made him the same offer I made to the woman who emailed me threatening to unpublish me from her journal–I offered to publish her letter as reader mail. She never responded, hence I didn’t put it up. Despite what I said to MB in my letter, I held the post until he responded in the affirmative. And that’s the whole story.

  49. Justin Taylor

      also- further proof that ‘pr’ is the on-pointest lady ever: yes, exactly. i had more fun writing that response email and looking for images like that squid i found than just about anything else i did today. it was really funny and enjoyable to me. i felt good about the jokes i made. if any of my students had actually come to my office hours, they would have discovered me enjoying myself way too much. good thing none of them did. KIDS IF YOU’RE READING THIS YOUR FINAL IS TUESDAY AND WE ARE *SO* NOT FUCKING AROUND ANYMORE SO STOP READING THIS AND GO STUDY. But Barry does have a point also, I think, which is that I generally sound much more serious and/or agitated than I really am.

      I am much more “emotionally invested” in a post like the one I made about Joshua Cohen, which I think got exactly one comment—–pr’s. Truth is, I made both posts at the same time, and decided to save this one for later, to give dude a chance to respond and also to give the Cohen post some breathing room, because that is actually interesting, as was–I think/hope–the post yesterday about editors. This was just ass-clownery.

      It was also, in a certain sense, fair play I think. Dude emailed me. I made him the same offer I made to the woman who emailed me threatening to unpublish me from her journal–I offered to publish her letter as reader mail. She never responded, hence I didn’t put it up. Despite what I said to MB in my letter, I held the post until he responded in the affirmative. And that’s the whole story.

  50. Justin Taylor

      except for the sex parts, natch.

  51. Justin Taylor

      except for the sex parts, natch.

  52. Blake Butler
  53. Blake Butler
  54. pr

      Love it Justin.
      But why are you not discussing Kafka with me? I fucking spent HOURS- DAYS- trying to read him in German. His work is funny. It needs to be discussed that way. He is a comedian. Like Richard Price. Like Isaac Babel. I hate it when people miss that. He was tragic. But his work is pure Shakspearan funny.

  55. Justin Taylor

      pr- this was my introduction to Kafka:

      In high school I had this friend, Asaf. He was Israeli and his parents were freaky artist types– like they made mad bank and I think one of his dad’s pieces is in the White House, but they wore black pajamas all day and didn’t really deal well with kids. He turned me onto LSD when we were 15, and a lot of music. Most of the music was stupid techno, but one thing that stuck with me for a long time was Frank Zappa. I’m sort of a Zappa agnostic now, but I was a Zappa evangelist for a long time. So anyway, I start collecting Zappa records. Now I buy a copy of WE’RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY, which is one of the few FZ records I will stand by without reservation, to this day. I put my new record on, and start reading the liner notes while I listen. The liner notes explain that YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LISTEN TO THE LAST SONG (“The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny”) until you have read Kafka’s “In the Penal Colony” and are prepared to sit quietly and think about what you read while listening to the song.

      Evangelist that I was, I stopped the record before that song came on EVERY TIME I PLAYED IT for weeks, maybe months, until I got hold of a Kafka book and was able to read the story. Then I did just what FZ said. Nothing much of note came of it, but not for my lack of effort, faith, or will.

      And that was my introduction to Kafka.

  56. Justin Taylor

      pr- this was my introduction to Kafka:

      In high school I had this friend, Asaf. He was Israeli and his parents were freaky artist types– like they made mad bank and I think one of his dad’s pieces is in the White House, but they wore black pajamas all day and didn’t really deal well with kids. He turned me onto LSD when we were 15, and a lot of music. Most of the music was stupid techno, but one thing that stuck with me for a long time was Frank Zappa. I’m sort of a Zappa agnostic now, but I was a Zappa evangelist for a long time. So anyway, I start collecting Zappa records. Now I buy a copy of WE’RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY, which is one of the few FZ records I will stand by without reservation, to this day. I put my new record on, and start reading the liner notes while I listen. The liner notes explain that YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LISTEN TO THE LAST SONG (“The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny”) until you have read Kafka’s “In the Penal Colony” and are prepared to sit quietly and think about what you read while listening to the song.

      Evangelist that I was, I stopped the record before that song came on EVERY TIME I PLAYED IT for weeks, maybe months, until I got hold of a Kafka book and was able to read the story. Then I did just what FZ said. Nothing much of note came of it, but not for my lack of effort, faith, or will.

      And that was my introduction to Kafka.

  57. ben

      i can’t read the word ‘abstruse’ without thinking of that ny times obituary of derrida.

      i can’t read html giant without seeing things that i feel should be hidden and private and shameful. i think so many things are too easily seen and said and i am just wondering what happened to the guilt and shame and hidden things and what they must now be if they are not what I read here sometimes. they must be really bad, like the kinds of things that girls tell you that make you want to love them forever and erase their childhoods.

      i like that kafka series. thank you for pointing out that it exists. it is on a website for/about jews. that is probably why i was thinking about shame and guilt and said what i said above.

      i think m. baumer was trying to be fraternal and in on jokes and was not succeeding at either aim. that made me sad and i liked him better because he failed and was not as clever or funny as he wanted to be. but also i was angry with him because i wanted for him to be smoothing things over instead of digging holes.

  58. ben

      i can’t read the word ‘abstruse’ without thinking of that ny times obituary of derrida.

      i can’t read html giant without seeing things that i feel should be hidden and private and shameful. i think so many things are too easily seen and said and i am just wondering what happened to the guilt and shame and hidden things and what they must now be if they are not what I read here sometimes. they must be really bad, like the kinds of things that girls tell you that make you want to love them forever and erase their childhoods.

      i like that kafka series. thank you for pointing out that it exists. it is on a website for/about jews. that is probably why i was thinking about shame and guilt and said what i said above.

      i think m. baumer was trying to be fraternal and in on jokes and was not succeeding at either aim. that made me sad and i liked him better because he failed and was not as clever or funny as he wanted to be. but also i was angry with him because i wanted for him to be smoothing things over instead of digging holes.

  59. Justin Taylor

      the other thing he was really right about was the band Coldcut, whose Let Us Play and Let Us Replay are two amazing records. I haven’t been as into their newer stuff but could listen to those albums over and over. Oh and Squarepusher too, I guess.

  60. Justin Taylor

      the other thing he was really right about was the band Coldcut, whose Let Us Play and Let Us Replay are two amazing records. I haven’t been as into their newer stuff but could listen to those albums over and over. Oh and Squarepusher too, I guess.

  61. Blake Butler
  62. Blake Butler
  63. Jimmy Chen

      DC berman is a genius.

      american water is the soundtrack of my life

  64. Jimmy Chen

      DC berman is a genius.

      american water is the soundtrack of my life

  65. Blake Butler

      i wish i could get into silver jews more. ‘actual air’ is the shit though

  66. Blake Butler

      i wish i could get into silver jews more. ‘actual air’ is the shit though

  67. Jimmy Chen

      like like, the the the the
      grass rabbits grass rabbits grass rabbits grass

      nodoby cares
      about a dead hooker

  68. Jimmy Chen

      like like, the the the the
      grass rabbits grass rabbits grass rabbits grass

      nodoby cares
      about a dead hooker

  69. Justin Taylor

      I’m more of a Bright Flight guy myself. I also think that the two most recent Joos albums are really underrated. People said Tanglewood wasn’t that great until Lookout came out, then they fronted like Tanglewood was a classic and Lookout didn’t add up. I’m not saying Lookout is the best record ever, but there’s at leas two bowls of genius on there- Party Barge is a dance classic that every producer in the world is apparently too fucking stupid to realize needs the shit remixed out of it– Everything about Cassie–bass, vox, ‘tude–needs to be cranked way the fuck up. throw in some scratching and a bridge or something: CHRISTMAS.

      San Francisco, BC too, man. Not as cathartic a singalong as “Death of an Heir of Sorrows” but it’s smarter+funnier than anything I committed to DAT this year.

  70. Jimmy Chen

      can’t we all just get along?

  71. Justin Taylor

      I’m more of a Bright Flight guy myself. I also think that the two most recent Joos albums are really underrated. People said Tanglewood wasn’t that great until Lookout came out, then they fronted like Tanglewood was a classic and Lookout didn’t add up. I’m not saying Lookout is the best record ever, but there’s at leas two bowls of genius on there- Party Barge is a dance classic that every producer in the world is apparently too fucking stupid to realize needs the shit remixed out of it– Everything about Cassie–bass, vox, ‘tude–needs to be cranked way the fuck up. throw in some scratching and a bridge or something: CHRISTMAS.

      San Francisco, BC too, man. Not as cathartic a singalong as “Death of an Heir of Sorrows” but it’s smarter+funnier than anything I committed to DAT this year.

  72. Jimmy Chen

      can’t we all just get along?

  73. Jimmy Chen

      i’m the one with the fucking bashed in head

      can’t we all just get along?

  74. Jimmy Chen

      i’m 1984 i was hospitalized for approaching perfection

  75. Jimmy Chen

      i’m the one with the fucking bashed in head

      can’t we all just get along?

  76. Jimmy Chen

      i’m 1984 i was hospitalized for approaching perfection

  77. Justin Taylor

      ps “two bowls of genius” was a superlative intended to be applied to the whole record. i wasn’t saying that those 2 songs I zeroed in on are the only 2 “bowls” of genius. no, the record itself is the bowl–a brimming double bowl of awesome.

  78. Justin Taylor

      ps “two bowls of genius” was a superlative intended to be applied to the whole record. i wasn’t saying that those 2 songs I zeroed in on are the only 2 “bowls” of genius. no, the record itself is the bowl–a brimming double bowl of awesome.

  79. ben

      there’s that one silver jews song on i forget which album where he talks about going to a party and sneaking upstairs to make free long-distance phone calls and i always thought that was one of the best lines ever

  80. ben

      there’s that one silver jews song on i forget which album where he talks about going to a party and sneaking upstairs to make free long-distance phone calls and i always thought that was one of the best lines ever

  81. Justin Taylor

      ben- that would be “The Country Diary of a Subway Conductor” on Starlite Walker. Title is a play on “Diary of a Country Priest” but perhaps not entirely unrelated to KAFKA’S “A Country Doctor,” which is an awesomely fucked story.

  82. Justin Taylor

      ben- that would be “The Country Diary of a Subway Conductor” on Starlite Walker. Title is a play on “Diary of a Country Priest” but perhaps not entirely unrelated to KAFKA’S “A Country Doctor,” which is an awesomely fucked story.

  83. peter

      The Country Diary of a Subway Conductor.

      “It’s not made if it’s made in Roanoke.”

  84. peter

      The Country Diary of a Subway Conductor.

      “It’s not made if it’s made in Roanoke.”

  85. James

      “all my favorite singers couldn’t sing”

  86. James

      “all my favorite singers couldn’t sing”

  87. James

      no one really says that about writers though. or do they?

  88. James

      no one really says that about writers though. or do they?

  89. pr

      OK, I don’t listen to the Silver Jews. Sorry. BUT- Justin! That story about your introduction to Kafka was great! You are great. I read him in my late teens early twenties and then again, in my mid to late twenties. The two experiences were so different. The second time, I laughed out loud, smiled, giggled. The first time, I had been very serious, and was like, WOW, this is soo deep and dark. The second time, I saw his aburdity for what it is- absurd. A guy wakes up and is a fly? That’s funny. But like all great comedy, it has a dark side. But to miss the comedy is to miss the point. So thanks for the post. I picked up his diaries again because of it. I have this section marked off I want to share here- it’s funny AND dark- but I have to go outside now, cause Jimmy told me to.

  90. pr

      OK, I don’t listen to the Silver Jews. Sorry. BUT- Justin! That story about your introduction to Kafka was great! You are great. I read him in my late teens early twenties and then again, in my mid to late twenties. The two experiences were so different. The second time, I laughed out loud, smiled, giggled. The first time, I had been very serious, and was like, WOW, this is soo deep and dark. The second time, I saw his aburdity for what it is- absurd. A guy wakes up and is a fly? That’s funny. But like all great comedy, it has a dark side. But to miss the comedy is to miss the point. So thanks for the post. I picked up his diaries again because of it. I have this section marked off I want to share here- it’s funny AND dark- but I have to go outside now, cause Jimmy told me to.

  91. Joseph Young

      I don’t really know what’s going on here, but that letter by M. Baumer, the first one, is one of the best things. M. Baumer should contribute to this blog.

  92. Joseph Young

      I don’t really know what’s going on here, but that letter by M. Baumer, the first one, is one of the best things. M. Baumer should contribute to this blog.

  93. barry

      justin:

      “on pointness” is my favorite adjective. god bless ya.

  94. barry

      justin:

      “on pointness” is my favorite adjective. god bless ya.

  95. andré

      In certain corners of the internet no one knows what anyone means and they apologise every third sentence as if it were cute. It’s not deep or funny guys, it’s kind of annoying!!!!

  96. andré

      In certain corners of the internet no one knows what anyone means and they apologise every third sentence as if it were cute. It’s not deep or funny guys, it’s kind of annoying!!!!

  97. thom young

      not sure why all the trouble but writers are sensitive about their work
      rejection get use to it

  98. thom young

      not sure why all the trouble but writers are sensitive about their work
      rejection get use to it

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