November 19th, 2008 / 5:54 pm
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i am poor; oh i know, ill buy more stuff

I’m sure a lot of people are getting this in their mailbox. I received it twice, so I figured I’d add to the chaos of the universe and post it here. McSweeney’s is having a sale to promote being poor. It’s cute, just like potty training, and it’ll probably work. I’m seriously thinking about buying some books or something from them.

Here’s the email:

M c S W E E N E Y ‘ S   C R A Z Y   E X C E S S I V E   S A L E

Crazy Excessive Sale through this Friday, November 21.

Cheap, fast, painless, mutually beneficial. Also, good books. Do not deprive your loved ones! Please go now: store.mcsweeneys.net

Want more? How about this: if you spend over $60, you get a FREE copy of either Nick Hornby’s new collection Shakespeare Wrote for Money or Michael Chabon’s Maps and Legends. All you have to do is spend $60 (not including shipping) at our online store; then, at the bottom left of the first page of checkout, find the field for Promo Code. In this field, type in the code for the book you’d like:
– MAPS AND LEGENDS promo code: MC01
– SHAKESPEARE WROTE FOR MONEY promo code: NH05

You feel poor. We feel poor. Let’s feel poor together. This week only, almost everything is half-price at store.mcsweeneys.net. Escape the holiday rush and cross every name off your list in one cheap swoop.Angsty cousin? All Known Metal Bands. New fan? The Better of McSweeney’s. Paleontologist in the family? “What Happens in La Brea Tar Pits Stays in La Brea Tar Pits” t-shirt. Newlyweds spending their first winter together? The Secret Language of Sleep. Michael Cera fan? Wholphin No. 6. And so on — we’ve got all your bases covered, and it’s all excessively discounted, all right here.

Do it. And good luck. The economy can only get better.

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106 Comments

  1. Gian

      So wait. Dave fucking Eggers is running out of money? Somehow I doubt it. If so, he should stop giving away all of his money teaching tots to write exactly like he does. Can you imagine the sarcastic tone all of those little 826 shits come home and speak to their mothers with? Good god.

  2. Gian

      So wait. Dave fucking Eggers is running out of money? Somehow I doubt it. If so, he should stop giving away all of his money teaching tots to write exactly like he does. Can you imagine the sarcastic tone all of those little 826 shits come home and speak to their mothers with? Good god.

  3. Gian

      So wait. Dave fucking Eggers is running out of money? Somehow I doubt it. If so, he should stop giving away all of his money teaching tots to write exactly like he does. Can you imagine the sarcastic tone all of those little 826 shits come home and speak to their mothers with? Good god.

  4. barry

      that kid is gonna be a rock star….

      i can feel it

  5. barry

      that kid is gonna be a rock star….

      i can feel it

  6. barry

      that kid is gonna be a rock star….

      i can feel it

  7. Matthew Simmons

      is that some sort of bit your doing, Gian?

  8. Matthew Simmons

      is that some sort of bit your doing, Gian?

  9. Matthew Simmons

      is that some sort of bit your doing, Gian?

  10. Jimmy Chen

      Gian, criticize Eggers’ writing all you want, but dude, lay off 826National. they do great things. in my opinion, they do more for writing than most of what i’ve seen thus far in the lit world.

      honestly, i like alot of you guys are flat out bitter because Eggers is successful, famous, whatever.

      it’s just so predictable and small to bag on McSweeney’s. and yes, i officially understand i’ll never get published in NYtyrant from now on…that’s cool…

  11. Jimmy Chen

      Gian, criticize Eggers’ writing all you want, but dude, lay off 826National. they do great things. in my opinion, they do more for writing than most of what i’ve seen thus far in the lit world.

      honestly, i like alot of you guys are flat out bitter because Eggers is successful, famous, whatever.

      it’s just so predictable and small to bag on McSweeney’s. and yes, i officially understand i’ll never get published in NYtyrant from now on…that’s cool…

  12. Jimmy Chen

      Gian, criticize Eggers’ writing all you want, but dude, lay off 826National. they do great things. in my opinion, they do more for writing than most of what i’ve seen thus far in the lit world.

      honestly, i like alot of you guys are flat out bitter because Eggers is successful, famous, whatever.

      it’s just so predictable and small to bag on McSweeney’s. and yes, i officially understand i’ll never get published in NYtyrant from now on…that’s cool…

  13. Jimmy Chen

      *i think

  14. Jimmy Chen

      *i think

  15. Jimmy Chen

      *i think

  16. Matthew Simmons

      826 in Seattle does SAT prep for kids. And I’ve got to say, it’s terrible the way they train all the kids to do those word association questions with a detached, ironic tone.

      Terrible. They should be ashamed.

  17. Matthew Simmons

      826 in Seattle does SAT prep for kids. And I’ve got to say, it’s terrible the way they train all the kids to do those word association questions with a detached, ironic tone.

      Terrible. They should be ashamed.

  18. Matthew Simmons

      826 in Seattle does SAT prep for kids. And I’ve got to say, it’s terrible the way they train all the kids to do those word association questions with a detached, ironic tone.

      Terrible. They should be ashamed.

  19. darby

      I’ve not read anything the tots are writing. Is it all coming out eggierish?

  20. darby

      I’ve not read anything the tots are writing. Is it all coming out eggierish?

  21. darby

      I’ve not read anything the tots are writing. Is it all coming out eggierish?

  22. darby

      I got this mail too, and also, has anyone noticed an increase in spam from narrative, like everyday something new.

  23. darby

      I got this mail too, and also, has anyone noticed an increase in spam from narrative, like everyday something new.

  24. darby

      I got this mail too, and also, has anyone noticed an increase in spam from narrative, like everyday something new.

  25. Ryan

      The few books I don’t have that I want from McSweeneys were not 50% off, which was a bummer. Though I was thinking of completing my set of their ridiculous board book series.

  26. Ryan

      The few books I don’t have that I want from McSweeneys were not 50% off, which was a bummer. Though I was thinking of completing my set of their ridiculous board book series.

  27. Ryan

      The few books I don’t have that I want from McSweeneys were not 50% off, which was a bummer. Though I was thinking of completing my set of their ridiculous board book series.

  28. Gene Morgan

      I got suckered and bought shit for other people. I feel like a tool. A Christmas tool.

  29. Gene Morgan

      I got suckered and bought shit for other people. I feel like a tool. A Christmas tool.

  30. Gene Morgan

      I got suckered and bought shit for other people. I feel like a tool. A Christmas tool.

  31. darby

      I might buy Vacation actually, because I haven’t read that yet, and I’ve heard things.

  32. darby

      I might buy Vacation actually, because I haven’t read that yet, and I’ve heard things.

  33. darby

      I might buy Vacation actually, because I haven’t read that yet, and I’ve heard things.

  34. Gian

      Wow. I am not doing a bit, Matthew. And Jimmy, yeh, I should lay off of 826. I know it’s probably a good thing. And I know it might seem small to bag on McSweeney’s but the urge inside me is just so strong. And I KNOW I’m not the only one. It isn’t because he is successful. I love when people I admire succeed. When they deserve it. There is something about him that rubs me wrong. It might be his face (that definitely has something to do with it), but it is also something to do with the feeling I get reading anything associated with that dude. We publish some of the same writers, so it isn’t about that. Though even his edits put his “tone” into everything.

      Just because it’s predictable and small to bag on them isn’t going to keep me from doing it. When we started the Tyrant, Mr. Eggers sent me a pretty nasty email. It was very unfriendly and cheap and had that “tone” that all of his shit has. He was a total dick and I hadn’t done anything to him except write on our website that we do not care for sarcastic shit so please don’t send it. I can’t tell you how many letters from writers we got saying thank you for stating that and that they were also sick of that (poorly-done) irony and sarc. In some ways, McSweeneys inspired me to start the Tyrant (and perhaps I should be grateful to Eggers for this, though I am not). The one thing I counted on (literature) was all of a sudden being stormed by this mediocre writer and everyone loved it and everyone was talking about it. And it felt like he must have been reaching all of these people that had perhaps never read before. They couldn’t have read before, I thought, or else why would they love this cutesy crap? It absolutely lacks poetry and feeling. I just got a real shitty feeling about my generation being represented by this guy. I guess it is just an opinion but that is all I have. And as small and easy as it is is to bag on McSweeney’s, I feel like the second wave of that is coming around in it being small and easy to give someone shit for bagging on them. It is kind of a cop-out to NOT bag on them when you might think it’s warranted. It’s like it was once cool to bag on McSweeney’s but now it’s cool NOT to. Fuck that. I don’t care that it’s easy to bag on them and I dont care that I share feelings with others. When I hear a lot of people hate on something, I usually think that there is a reason behind it. McSweeney’s is not off-limits, man. Neither are we. Neither is anyone. I am rambling now and am probably going to be embarrassed by this post afterwards. But, basically, I thing Dave Eggers is one big fraud. And I am pretty sure I’m right about this.

      So, to close, 826 kids are off the hook (though don’t come crying to me when in 15 years everybody sounds like a McSweeney’s writer). But Dave Eggers head is on the block, where it should be, and someone genuine, like Blake, should be standing there with the axe. (Not to involve you, Blake. For the record, Blake and I have never discussed Eggers or McSweeney’s and I only place him there with the axe because I admire him and think he is doing things as they should be done.)

      So, nothing personal. I just assumed this was a forum of sorts to speak our minds.

  35. Gian

      Wow. I am not doing a bit, Matthew. And Jimmy, yeh, I should lay off of 826. I know it’s probably a good thing. And I know it might seem small to bag on McSweeney’s but the urge inside me is just so strong. And I KNOW I’m not the only one. It isn’t because he is successful. I love when people I admire succeed. When they deserve it. There is something about him that rubs me wrong. It might be his face (that definitely has something to do with it), but it is also something to do with the feeling I get reading anything associated with that dude. We publish some of the same writers, so it isn’t about that. Though even his edits put his “tone” into everything.

      Just because it’s predictable and small to bag on them isn’t going to keep me from doing it. When we started the Tyrant, Mr. Eggers sent me a pretty nasty email. It was very unfriendly and cheap and had that “tone” that all of his shit has. He was a total dick and I hadn’t done anything to him except write on our website that we do not care for sarcastic shit so please don’t send it. I can’t tell you how many letters from writers we got saying thank you for stating that and that they were also sick of that (poorly-done) irony and sarc. In some ways, McSweeneys inspired me to start the Tyrant (and perhaps I should be grateful to Eggers for this, though I am not). The one thing I counted on (literature) was all of a sudden being stormed by this mediocre writer and everyone loved it and everyone was talking about it. And it felt like he must have been reaching all of these people that had perhaps never read before. They couldn’t have read before, I thought, or else why would they love this cutesy crap? It absolutely lacks poetry and feeling. I just got a real shitty feeling about my generation being represented by this guy. I guess it is just an opinion but that is all I have. And as small and easy as it is is to bag on McSweeney’s, I feel like the second wave of that is coming around in it being small and easy to give someone shit for bagging on them. It is kind of a cop-out to NOT bag on them when you might think it’s warranted. It’s like it was once cool to bag on McSweeney’s but now it’s cool NOT to. Fuck that. I don’t care that it’s easy to bag on them and I dont care that I share feelings with others. When I hear a lot of people hate on something, I usually think that there is a reason behind it. McSweeney’s is not off-limits, man. Neither are we. Neither is anyone. I am rambling now and am probably going to be embarrassed by this post afterwards. But, basically, I thing Dave Eggers is one big fraud. And I am pretty sure I’m right about this.

      So, to close, 826 kids are off the hook (though don’t come crying to me when in 15 years everybody sounds like a McSweeney’s writer). But Dave Eggers head is on the block, where it should be, and someone genuine, like Blake, should be standing there with the axe. (Not to involve you, Blake. For the record, Blake and I have never discussed Eggers or McSweeney’s and I only place him there with the axe because I admire him and think he is doing things as they should be done.)

      So, nothing personal. I just assumed this was a forum of sorts to speak our minds.

  36. Gian

      Wow. I am not doing a bit, Matthew. And Jimmy, yeh, I should lay off of 826. I know it’s probably a good thing. And I know it might seem small to bag on McSweeney’s but the urge inside me is just so strong. And I KNOW I’m not the only one. It isn’t because he is successful. I love when people I admire succeed. When they deserve it. There is something about him that rubs me wrong. It might be his face (that definitely has something to do with it), but it is also something to do with the feeling I get reading anything associated with that dude. We publish some of the same writers, so it isn’t about that. Though even his edits put his “tone” into everything.

      Just because it’s predictable and small to bag on them isn’t going to keep me from doing it. When we started the Tyrant, Mr. Eggers sent me a pretty nasty email. It was very unfriendly and cheap and had that “tone” that all of his shit has. He was a total dick and I hadn’t done anything to him except write on our website that we do not care for sarcastic shit so please don’t send it. I can’t tell you how many letters from writers we got saying thank you for stating that and that they were also sick of that (poorly-done) irony and sarc. In some ways, McSweeneys inspired me to start the Tyrant (and perhaps I should be grateful to Eggers for this, though I am not). The one thing I counted on (literature) was all of a sudden being stormed by this mediocre writer and everyone loved it and everyone was talking about it. And it felt like he must have been reaching all of these people that had perhaps never read before. They couldn’t have read before, I thought, or else why would they love this cutesy crap? It absolutely lacks poetry and feeling. I just got a real shitty feeling about my generation being represented by this guy. I guess it is just an opinion but that is all I have. And as small and easy as it is is to bag on McSweeney’s, I feel like the second wave of that is coming around in it being small and easy to give someone shit for bagging on them. It is kind of a cop-out to NOT bag on them when you might think it’s warranted. It’s like it was once cool to bag on McSweeney’s but now it’s cool NOT to. Fuck that. I don’t care that it’s easy to bag on them and I dont care that I share feelings with others. When I hear a lot of people hate on something, I usually think that there is a reason behind it. McSweeney’s is not off-limits, man. Neither are we. Neither is anyone. I am rambling now and am probably going to be embarrassed by this post afterwards. But, basically, I thing Dave Eggers is one big fraud. And I am pretty sure I’m right about this.

      So, to close, 826 kids are off the hook (though don’t come crying to me when in 15 years everybody sounds like a McSweeney’s writer). But Dave Eggers head is on the block, where it should be, and someone genuine, like Blake, should be standing there with the axe. (Not to involve you, Blake. For the record, Blake and I have never discussed Eggers or McSweeney’s and I only place him there with the axe because I admire him and think he is doing things as they should be done.)

      So, nothing personal. I just assumed this was a forum of sorts to speak our minds.

  37. darby

      Do you associate everything ‘McSweeney’s’ to Eggers though? I think it’s difficult to do that these days, with all the good stuff McSweeney’s puts out, like the Believer, the books they do, etc. I can almost agree with things you’re saying from Eggers’ writing, but I don’t know if the hatred can be extend beyond the person.

  38. darby

      Do you associate everything ‘McSweeney’s’ to Eggers though? I think it’s difficult to do that these days, with all the good stuff McSweeney’s puts out, like the Believer, the books they do, etc. I can almost agree with things you’re saying from Eggers’ writing, but I don’t know if the hatred can be extend beyond the person.

  39. darby

      Do you associate everything ‘McSweeney’s’ to Eggers though? I think it’s difficult to do that these days, with all the good stuff McSweeney’s puts out, like the Believer, the books they do, etc. I can almost agree with things you’re saying from Eggers’ writing, but I don’t know if the hatred can be extend beyond the person.

  40. Ryan Call

      i am really proud of everyone today
      i think we all had a good day of commenting on htmlgiant

      im gonig to go get drunk

  41. Ryan Call

      i am really proud of everyone today
      i think we all had a good day of commenting on htmlgiant

      im gonig to go get drunk

  42. Ryan Call

      i am really proud of everyone today
      i think we all had a good day of commenting on htmlgiant

      im gonig to go get drunk

  43. Jimmy Chen

      why am i so emotional today? jesus

      Gian, cool we can talk about Eggers/mcsnys–but i think 826 should be off-limits, i mean, helping kids write has gotta be good thing.

      Eggers is like Radiohead, or Wes Anderson, (or Tao Lin around here), or whatever small great thing that people start shit-talking the minute it (they) become(s) huge.

      it’s crappy if Eggers sent you that email, I obviously knew nothing about it. but it seems mcsweeneys has been edited by Eli Horowitz and Jordan Bass for the longest time, so i don’t know how pro-active Eggers is propagating his ‘tone.’

      I don’t know why Eggers is a fraud. If/when NYtryant becomes HUGE and everyone worships you, I don’t think people should call you a fraud.

      And it’s unfair to link Eggers with the sarcastic tone thing, since ‘heartbreaking work…’ his, in my opinion, pro-actively tried to evolve out of it, esp. with ‘what is the what’ which was nothing but earnest and beautiful.

      god, this conversation is so old. i’m so tired.

  44. Jimmy Chen

      why am i so emotional today? jesus

      Gian, cool we can talk about Eggers/mcsnys–but i think 826 should be off-limits, i mean, helping kids write has gotta be good thing.

      Eggers is like Radiohead, or Wes Anderson, (or Tao Lin around here), or whatever small great thing that people start shit-talking the minute it (they) become(s) huge.

      it’s crappy if Eggers sent you that email, I obviously knew nothing about it. but it seems mcsweeneys has been edited by Eli Horowitz and Jordan Bass for the longest time, so i don’t know how pro-active Eggers is propagating his ‘tone.’

      I don’t know why Eggers is a fraud. If/when NYtryant becomes HUGE and everyone worships you, I don’t think people should call you a fraud.

      And it’s unfair to link Eggers with the sarcastic tone thing, since ‘heartbreaking work…’ his, in my opinion, pro-actively tried to evolve out of it, esp. with ‘what is the what’ which was nothing but earnest and beautiful.

      god, this conversation is so old. i’m so tired.

  45. Jimmy Chen

      why am i so emotional today? jesus

      Gian, cool we can talk about Eggers/mcsnys–but i think 826 should be off-limits, i mean, helping kids write has gotta be good thing.

      Eggers is like Radiohead, or Wes Anderson, (or Tao Lin around here), or whatever small great thing that people start shit-talking the minute it (they) become(s) huge.

      it’s crappy if Eggers sent you that email, I obviously knew nothing about it. but it seems mcsweeneys has been edited by Eli Horowitz and Jordan Bass for the longest time, so i don’t know how pro-active Eggers is propagating his ‘tone.’

      I don’t know why Eggers is a fraud. If/when NYtryant becomes HUGE and everyone worships you, I don’t think people should call you a fraud.

      And it’s unfair to link Eggers with the sarcastic tone thing, since ‘heartbreaking work…’ his, in my opinion, pro-actively tried to evolve out of it, esp. with ‘what is the what’ which was nothing but earnest and beautiful.

      god, this conversation is so old. i’m so tired.

  46. pr

      I just started drinking and this is fun.

      I do not like Eggers’ writing, but it is possible he is a good humanitarian and doing good things for the children in need and for the Sudan. I do like some of McSweeney’s – as much as I like any journal, perhaps. I have issues with the Believer that I won’t go into. All that said, I know a few people who have had dealings with him that have not gone well. So here is the irony, if that is the right word– a person can be a good, successful writer (or not so good, in my opinion), a good humanitarian, and still be a shit. Or a fake. I don’t know enough about Eggers to judge him to that extent, but those things are not mutually exclusive.

      I know a woman whose work I respect so much- she’s very successful, insanely talented, has won huge awards–and she is truly one of the most horrible people I’ve had the misfortune to know. She probably gives away a lot of money to good causes, too. Regardless- if I’m in the same room as her, I’m really really sad, and try to stay away from her.

  47. pr

      I just started drinking and this is fun.

      I do not like Eggers’ writing, but it is possible he is a good humanitarian and doing good things for the children in need and for the Sudan. I do like some of McSweeney’s – as much as I like any journal, perhaps. I have issues with the Believer that I won’t go into. All that said, I know a few people who have had dealings with him that have not gone well. So here is the irony, if that is the right word– a person can be a good, successful writer (or not so good, in my opinion), a good humanitarian, and still be a shit. Or a fake. I don’t know enough about Eggers to judge him to that extent, but those things are not mutually exclusive.

      I know a woman whose work I respect so much- she’s very successful, insanely talented, has won huge awards–and she is truly one of the most horrible people I’ve had the misfortune to know. She probably gives away a lot of money to good causes, too. Regardless- if I’m in the same room as her, I’m really really sad, and try to stay away from her.

  48. pr

      I just started drinking and this is fun.

      I do not like Eggers’ writing, but it is possible he is a good humanitarian and doing good things for the children in need and for the Sudan. I do like some of McSweeney’s – as much as I like any journal, perhaps. I have issues with the Believer that I won’t go into. All that said, I know a few people who have had dealings with him that have not gone well. So here is the irony, if that is the right word– a person can be a good, successful writer (or not so good, in my opinion), a good humanitarian, and still be a shit. Or a fake. I don’t know enough about Eggers to judge him to that extent, but those things are not mutually exclusive.

      I know a woman whose work I respect so much- she’s very successful, insanely talented, has won huge awards–and she is truly one of the most horrible people I’ve had the misfortune to know. She probably gives away a lot of money to good causes, too. Regardless- if I’m in the same room as her, I’m really really sad, and try to stay away from her.

  49. Jimmy Chen

      you know virginia woolf?

  50. Jimmy Chen

      you know virginia woolf?

  51. Jimmy Chen

      you know virginia woolf?

  52. pr

      Ha! Jimmy! I like you when you are silly. Let’s see those man boobs again, my friend.

  53. pr

      Ha! Jimmy! I like you when you are silly. Let’s see those man boobs again, my friend.

  54. pr

      Ha! Jimmy! I like you when you are silly. Let’s see those man boobs again, my friend.

  55. Gian

      I guess I shouldn’t lump all of the McSweeney’s stuff together I haven’t even read anything from them in awhile. I love Brian Evenson and know they just put something out of his (so are we very soon), and the Unferth book is supposed to be good. Don’t really care for the Believer though.

      You’re right about this argument being old It makes me kind of nauseous and emotional.

      But the Radiohead and Wes Anderson thing I can’t compare. I like Radiohead. i loved Kid A but after that I don’t really care. Anderson was good for Bottle Rocket and Rushmore, after that nothing. That Darjeeling movie felt like a McSweeney’s production. Beautiful on the outside but no substance. Maybe that Is what i don;t like so much about McSweeney’s. That the physical beauty of the books is so promising and then you read it and you feel like you got robbed. It’s like a Silenus but backwards. Ok, yawn yawn yawn about McSweeney’s and Eggers. The discussion is tired. But I did think there would be more comments about this than there were.

  56. Gian

      I guess I shouldn’t lump all of the McSweeney’s stuff together I haven’t even read anything from them in awhile. I love Brian Evenson and know they just put something out of his (so are we very soon), and the Unferth book is supposed to be good. Don’t really care for the Believer though.

      You’re right about this argument being old It makes me kind of nauseous and emotional.

      But the Radiohead and Wes Anderson thing I can’t compare. I like Radiohead. i loved Kid A but after that I don’t really care. Anderson was good for Bottle Rocket and Rushmore, after that nothing. That Darjeeling movie felt like a McSweeney’s production. Beautiful on the outside but no substance. Maybe that Is what i don;t like so much about McSweeney’s. That the physical beauty of the books is so promising and then you read it and you feel like you got robbed. It’s like a Silenus but backwards. Ok, yawn yawn yawn about McSweeney’s and Eggers. The discussion is tired. But I did think there would be more comments about this than there were.

  57. Gian

      I guess I shouldn’t lump all of the McSweeney’s stuff together I haven’t even read anything from them in awhile. I love Brian Evenson and know they just put something out of his (so are we very soon), and the Unferth book is supposed to be good. Don’t really care for the Believer though.

      You’re right about this argument being old It makes me kind of nauseous and emotional.

      But the Radiohead and Wes Anderson thing I can’t compare. I like Radiohead. i loved Kid A but after that I don’t really care. Anderson was good for Bottle Rocket and Rushmore, after that nothing. That Darjeeling movie felt like a McSweeney’s production. Beautiful on the outside but no substance. Maybe that Is what i don;t like so much about McSweeney’s. That the physical beauty of the books is so promising and then you read it and you feel like you got robbed. It’s like a Silenus but backwards. Ok, yawn yawn yawn about McSweeney’s and Eggers. The discussion is tired. But I did think there would be more comments about this than there were.

  58. Matthew Simmons

      Perhaps I’m incredibly naive, bu the idea that a writer—even a pretty successful writer—can periodically bail out an indie publisher as ambitious and careful in its product (and I’m talking about the quality of the physical objects and the non-standard design) as McSweeney’s seems hard to swallow. That’s all. I’m just suggesting that the scale seems out of whack. Hell, Holtzbrinck and Newscorp can’t make shit publishing books right now. The idea that a single writer has amassed his own personal Scrooge McDuck money room and can use—I don’t know—the change from his couch to publish a monthly magazine, a quarterly journal that folds into a swan, and four or five books a year is…unlikely.

      Tone’s a whole other bag. We can talk tone. (For the record , I think it’s more “arch” than “sarcastic” or “ironic.”)

      “I just assumed this was a forum of sorts to speak our minds.”

      You assumed correctly. As did I when I responded.

      I ain’t mad atcha.

  59. Matthew Simmons

      Perhaps I’m incredibly naive, bu the idea that a writer—even a pretty successful writer—can periodically bail out an indie publisher as ambitious and careful in its product (and I’m talking about the quality of the physical objects and the non-standard design) as McSweeney’s seems hard to swallow. That’s all. I’m just suggesting that the scale seems out of whack. Hell, Holtzbrinck and Newscorp can’t make shit publishing books right now. The idea that a single writer has amassed his own personal Scrooge McDuck money room and can use—I don’t know—the change from his couch to publish a monthly magazine, a quarterly journal that folds into a swan, and four or five books a year is…unlikely.

      Tone’s a whole other bag. We can talk tone. (For the record , I think it’s more “arch” than “sarcastic” or “ironic.”)

      “I just assumed this was a forum of sorts to speak our minds.”

      You assumed correctly. As did I when I responded.

      I ain’t mad atcha.

  60. Matthew Simmons

      Perhaps I’m incredibly naive, bu the idea that a writer—even a pretty successful writer—can periodically bail out an indie publisher as ambitious and careful in its product (and I’m talking about the quality of the physical objects and the non-standard design) as McSweeney’s seems hard to swallow. That’s all. I’m just suggesting that the scale seems out of whack. Hell, Holtzbrinck and Newscorp can’t make shit publishing books right now. The idea that a single writer has amassed his own personal Scrooge McDuck money room and can use—I don’t know—the change from his couch to publish a monthly magazine, a quarterly journal that folds into a swan, and four or five books a year is…unlikely.

      Tone’s a whole other bag. We can talk tone. (For the record , I think it’s more “arch” than “sarcastic” or “ironic.”)

      “I just assumed this was a forum of sorts to speak our minds.”

      You assumed correctly. As did I when I responded.

      I ain’t mad atcha.

  61. pr

      So Matthew, you are suspicious? Of what? I’m curious.

  62. pr

      So Matthew, you are suspicious? Of what? I’m curious.

  63. pr

      So Matthew, you are suspicious? Of what? I’m curious.

  64. Gian

      I don’t know man. I think he is pretty loaded. Even if he isn’t, how sleazy was it when he wanted to cancel the free subscriptions that everyone got when they donated a bunch of money when McSweeneys started out. A lot of people gave a bunch of money and were promised lifetime subscriptions for being so generous. Then, Eggers was all, “Um, I’d like to not give you free books anymore.”

  65. Gian

      I don’t know man. I think he is pretty loaded. Even if he isn’t, how sleazy was it when he wanted to cancel the free subscriptions that everyone got when they donated a bunch of money when McSweeneys started out. A lot of people gave a bunch of money and were promised lifetime subscriptions for being so generous. Then, Eggers was all, “Um, I’d like to not give you free books anymore.”

  66. Gian

      I don’t know man. I think he is pretty loaded. Even if he isn’t, how sleazy was it when he wanted to cancel the free subscriptions that everyone got when they donated a bunch of money when McSweeneys started out. A lot of people gave a bunch of money and were promised lifetime subscriptions for being so generous. Then, Eggers was all, “Um, I’d like to not give you free books anymore.”

  67. pr

      I saw Radiohead open up for PJ Harvey. That was a very good show.

      No comment on Wes Anderson. I am movie retarded. I own Underworld and watch it a lot, drunk.

      Now, what Gian says sort of jibes with what I was saying- he can be so many good things, and still not be good. People are complicated. That is why I like some of them, though.

  68. pr

      I saw Radiohead open up for PJ Harvey. That was a very good show.

      No comment on Wes Anderson. I am movie retarded. I own Underworld and watch it a lot, drunk.

      Now, what Gian says sort of jibes with what I was saying- he can be so many good things, and still not be good. People are complicated. That is why I like some of them, though.

  69. pr

      I saw Radiohead open up for PJ Harvey. That was a very good show.

      No comment on Wes Anderson. I am movie retarded. I own Underworld and watch it a lot, drunk.

      Now, what Gian says sort of jibes with what I was saying- he can be so many good things, and still not be good. People are complicated. That is why I like some of them, though.

  70. darby

      pr, what is wrong with the believer?

  71. darby

      pr, what is wrong with the believer?

  72. Matthew Simmons

      I agree that would be a terrible thing to do. But that’s not what happened. Read it again. If you got a lifetime subscription and you wanted to keep it, you kept it.

  73. Matthew Simmons

      I agree that would be a terrible thing to do. But that’s not what happened. Read it again. If you got a lifetime subscription and you wanted to keep it, you kept it.

  74. darby

      pr, what is wrong with the believer?

  75. Matthew Simmons

      I agree that would be a terrible thing to do. But that’s not what happened. Read it again. If you got a lifetime subscription and you wanted to keep it, you kept it.

  76. pr

      Probably nothing is wrong with The Believer- my feelings are..ah. I just can’t go there right now.

      I am sort of not expressing any real opinion here, but just wanting to point out that nasty people can be good writers- great writers–and also generous to non-profits. That is the main point I feel is important to make. I don’t know enough about Eggers to say anything specific.

      What I don’t get- thanks to Knob Creek? My general cluelessness- is what Matthew’s point was when saying it was “unlikely” regarding the financial situation of Eggers or McSweeneys. What did I miss in that post?

      I read that post that you linked to re: lifetime subscriptions. Hmm. Not sure what I think. It’s a bit iffy. Obviously, I would go for the plaque! RIght?

      I think I’d respect them more (I’m trying to be funny here) if he wrote “I had no idea we would be going strong for so long and become so successful, so I really don’t want to give all you cheap ass motherfuckers free shit anymore just cause you gave me 100 bucks, like, a million years ago. So – I lied. You don’t have a lifetime subscription. Sorry!”

  77. pr

      Probably nothing is wrong with The Believer- my feelings are..ah. I just can’t go there right now.

      I am sort of not expressing any real opinion here, but just wanting to point out that nasty people can be good writers- great writers–and also generous to non-profits. That is the main point I feel is important to make. I don’t know enough about Eggers to say anything specific.

      What I don’t get- thanks to Knob Creek? My general cluelessness- is what Matthew’s point was when saying it was “unlikely” regarding the financial situation of Eggers or McSweeneys. What did I miss in that post?

      I read that post that you linked to re: lifetime subscriptions. Hmm. Not sure what I think. It’s a bit iffy. Obviously, I would go for the plaque! RIght?

      I think I’d respect them more (I’m trying to be funny here) if he wrote “I had no idea we would be going strong for so long and become so successful, so I really don’t want to give all you cheap ass motherfuckers free shit anymore just cause you gave me 100 bucks, like, a million years ago. So – I lied. You don’t have a lifetime subscription. Sorry!”

  78. pr

      Probably nothing is wrong with The Believer- my feelings are..ah. I just can’t go there right now.

      I am sort of not expressing any real opinion here, but just wanting to point out that nasty people can be good writers- great writers–and also generous to non-profits. That is the main point I feel is important to make. I don’t know enough about Eggers to say anything specific.

      What I don’t get- thanks to Knob Creek? My general cluelessness- is what Matthew’s point was when saying it was “unlikely” regarding the financial situation of Eggers or McSweeneys. What did I miss in that post?

      I read that post that you linked to re: lifetime subscriptions. Hmm. Not sure what I think. It’s a bit iffy. Obviously, I would go for the plaque! RIght?

      I think I’d respect them more (I’m trying to be funny here) if he wrote “I had no idea we would be going strong for so long and become so successful, so I really don’t want to give all you cheap ass motherfuckers free shit anymore just cause you gave me 100 bucks, like, a million years ago. So – I lied. You don’t have a lifetime subscription. Sorry!”

  79. Gian

      Yeh, but he still tried. Just comes off sleazy to me.

  80. Gian

      Yeh, but he still tried. Just comes off sleazy to me.

  81. Gian

      Yeh, but he still tried. Just comes off sleazy to me.

  82. Gian

      And yes, pr, shitty people can do very beautiful things. Chet Baker anyone?

  83. Gian

      And yes, pr, shitty people can do very beautiful things. Chet Baker anyone?

  84. Gian

      And yes, pr, shitty people can do very beautiful things. Chet Baker anyone?

  85. Matthew Simmons

      I don’t know that I’d disagree with you, pr. That particular bit of hat-in-hand-ing might have called for a slightly more contrite tone.

      Or something. I read it, and it seems like they are just asking for help. GianCarlo reads it and thinks it’s a sleazy. Certainly when that thing appeared, people reacted in both ways. This is the danger of the tone in which it was written.

      The point I was trying to make in an earlier comment was that McSweeney’s puts a lot of money into the books they publish, and I don’t think we should assume that Eggers can open his checkbook and bankroll the whole thing, no matter how successful or “loaded” he is. That’s it.

      And, really, I don’t know that we should expect him to do so if he could.

      Chet Baker’s did very beautiful things, but if the motherfucker would’ve practiced more, he might have been able to play beyond that mid-range all his solos seemed imprisoned in.

  86. Matthew Simmons

      I don’t know that I’d disagree with you, pr. That particular bit of hat-in-hand-ing might have called for a slightly more contrite tone.

      Or something. I read it, and it seems like they are just asking for help. GianCarlo reads it and thinks it’s a sleazy. Certainly when that thing appeared, people reacted in both ways. This is the danger of the tone in which it was written.

      The point I was trying to make in an earlier comment was that McSweeney’s puts a lot of money into the books they publish, and I don’t think we should assume that Eggers can open his checkbook and bankroll the whole thing, no matter how successful or “loaded” he is. That’s it.

      And, really, I don’t know that we should expect him to do so if he could.

      Chet Baker’s did very beautiful things, but if the motherfucker would’ve practiced more, he might have been able to play beyond that mid-range all his solos seemed imprisoned in.

  87. Matthew Simmons

      I don’t know that I’d disagree with you, pr. That particular bit of hat-in-hand-ing might have called for a slightly more contrite tone.

      Or something. I read it, and it seems like they are just asking for help. GianCarlo reads it and thinks it’s a sleazy. Certainly when that thing appeared, people reacted in both ways. This is the danger of the tone in which it was written.

      The point I was trying to make in an earlier comment was that McSweeney’s puts a lot of money into the books they publish, and I don’t think we should assume that Eggers can open his checkbook and bankroll the whole thing, no matter how successful or “loaded” he is. That’s it.

      And, really, I don’t know that we should expect him to do so if he could.

      Chet Baker’s did very beautiful things, but if the motherfucker would’ve practiced more, he might have been able to play beyond that mid-range all his solos seemed imprisoned in.

  88. Blake Butler

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  89. Blake Butler

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  90. Blake Butler

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  91. Blake Butler

      i’d imagine mcsweeney’s would be thick skinned at this point.

      i’ve never met dave eggers but jordan bass and andrew leland are champion people. both humble and laid back and cool and genuine. i like them.

      my matters of taste on other things: mcswy’s has done some things i love and some i love less. what entity has not?

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  92. Blake Butler

      i’d imagine mcsweeney’s would be thick skinned at this point.

      i’ve never met dave eggers but jordan bass and andrew leland are champion people. both humble and laid back and cool and genuine. i like them.

      my matters of taste on other things: mcswy’s has done some things i love and some i love less. what entity has not?

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  93. Blake Butler

      i’d imagine mcsweeney’s would be thick skinned at this point.

      i’ve never met dave eggers but jordan bass and andrew leland are champion people. both humble and laid back and cool and genuine. i like them.

      my matters of taste on other things: mcswy’s has done some things i love and some i love less. what entity has not?

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  94. Blake Butler

      today was fun

  95. Blake Butler

      today was fun

  96. Blake Butler

      today was fun

  97. Gian

      So, Matthew, you jump up to defend McSweeney’s but DARE say an unkind word about Mr. Baker??? I am flabbergasted (and kidding). It’s been fun. Goodnight!

  98. Gian

      So, Matthew, you jump up to defend McSweeney’s but DARE say an unkind word about Mr. Baker??? I am flabbergasted (and kidding). It’s been fun. Goodnight!

  99. Gian

      So, Matthew, you jump up to defend McSweeney’s but DARE say an unkind word about Mr. Baker??? I am flabbergasted (and kidding). It’s been fun. Goodnight!

  100. darby

      Is the day over already? No one on the east ever stays up past 8pm.

  101. darby

      Is the day over already? No one on the east ever stays up past 8pm.

  102. darby

      Is the day over already? No one on the east ever stays up past 8pm.

  103. Mark

      I met Eggers on his What Is The What tour. He was polite and friendly and weird and sincere and good all around. I don’t know if he’s poor, but I am.

  104. Matthew Simmons

      Hah! Man, I have some fucked up priorities.

      “You know what I blame this on the breakdown of? Society.”

  105. Matthew Simmons

      Hah! Man, I have some fucked up priorities.

      “You know what I blame this on the breakdown of? Society.”

  106. Matthew Simmons

      Hah! Man, I have some fucked up priorities.

      “You know what I blame this on the breakdown of? Society.”