December 20th, 2009 / 12:10 pm
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Technically devastating (as in perfect), “The Dead” by James Joyce is the Greatest Holiday Text Of All Time. Your choice?

56 Comments

  1. Stefan

      Beyond the Zero section of Gravity’s Rainbow. Can’t fault ‘The Dead’ though.

  2. Stefan

      Beyond the Zero section of Gravity’s Rainbow. Can’t fault ‘The Dead’ though.

  3. Blake Butler

      way to go out on a limb there, lovelace

      let me guess, your favorite nacho topping is… cheese?

  4. Blake Butler

      way to go out on a limb there, lovelace

      let me guess, your favorite nacho topping is… cheese?

  5. mimi

      “The Dead” is the Hook’s ten-year cheddar of Holiday Text.

  6. mimi

      “The Dead” is the Hook’s ten-year cheddar of Holiday Text.

  7. Sean Lovelace

      Sometimes good is just good though.

  8. Sean Lovelace

      Sometimes good is just good though.

  9. mark

      i see there’s a novelization of batman returns, so i’ll pick that. (cheapest used copy on amazon is $64!)

  10. mark

      i see there’s a novelization of batman returns, so i’ll pick that. (cheapest used copy on amazon is $64!)

  11. mimi

      I’m not saying “The Dead” isn’t good – it’s glorious – devastating and perfect, like you said. I’m just saying that cheese can also be damn good. (to counter Blake’s insinuation that cheese is cheese or that “The Dead” is a cheesy choice.)
      Hook’s ten-year cheddar is probably too good to put on top of nachos, though. Or else thems better be some damn good perfect-ingredient nachos.

  12. mimi

      I’m not saying “The Dead” isn’t good – it’s glorious – devastating and perfect, like you said. I’m just saying that cheese can also be damn good. (to counter Blake’s insinuation that cheese is cheese or that “The Dead” is a cheesy choice.)
      Hook’s ten-year cheddar is probably too good to put on top of nachos, though. Or else thems better be some damn good perfect-ingredient nachos.

  13. Jesse Hudson

      I would have to choose The Dead as well. Whether it’s an ‘obvious’ choice or not doesn’t change my opinion.

  14. Jesse Hudson

      I would have to choose The Dead as well. Whether it’s an ‘obvious’ choice or not doesn’t change my opinion.

  15. Jesse Hudson

      In fact, to call it an ‘obvious’ and/or a predictable choice, is a rather ‘predictable’ thing to do.

  16. Jesse Hudson

      In fact, to call it an ‘obvious’ and/or a predictable choice, is a rather ‘predictable’ thing to do.

  17. blake

      i wasn’t insinutating it was cheesy. i love cheese on nachos. it’s really good.

  18. blake

      i wasn’t insinutating it was cheesy. i love cheese on nachos. it’s really good.

  19. Matt Bell

      Ha!

  20. Matt Bell

      Ha!

  21. Lincoln

      Blah story.

  22. Lincoln

      Blah story.

  23. Adam MacDonald

      The Dead is good and important for a lot of reasons. If we’re worried about Holiday season stuff, then a possible comparison would be Dylan Thomas’ “A Child’s Christmas in Wales”. Possibly saccharine at times, but it’s great to listen to the original recording by Thomas. Not sentimental at all.

  24. Adam MacDonald

      The Dead is good and important for a lot of reasons. If we’re worried about Holiday season stuff, then a possible comparison would be Dylan Thomas’ “A Child’s Christmas in Wales”. Possibly saccharine at times, but it’s great to listen to the original recording by Thomas. Not sentimental at all.

  25. ce.

      There was a lady in front of me seeing The Road the other night who said as the credits roled, “Well, that was a cheery holiday movie,” and when I thought about it, I actually really liked the idea of The Road as a “holiday story”–the sheer bleakness (fuck gray Indiana winters, boohoo, I’m a horse) and hope of it.

      But, as for true holiday themed lit, “The Dead” is only obvious because nothing else compares. I’m seriously sitting here trying to think of other holiday lit, even a book or story with a good scene, and all I’m coming up with is Dickens, and well..

  26. ce.

      There was a lady in front of me seeing The Road the other night who said as the credits roled, “Well, that was a cheery holiday movie,” and when I thought about it, I actually really liked the idea of The Road as a “holiday story”–the sheer bleakness (fuck gray Indiana winters, boohoo, I’m a horse) and hope of it.

      But, as for true holiday themed lit, “The Dead” is only obvious because nothing else compares. I’m seriously sitting here trying to think of other holiday lit, even a book or story with a good scene, and all I’m coming up with is Dickens, and well..

  27. Lincoln

      Yeah this seems to just win by default. I haven’t been able to even think of any others…

  28. Lincoln

      Yeah this seems to just win by default. I haven’t been able to even think of any others…

  29. reynard

      the jefferson bible

  30. reynard

      the jefferson bible

  31. mimi

      Perhaps what needs to be considered is sub-“The Dead”-quality holiday fare. There’s always “The Gift of the Magi” which we all read in middle school. David Sedaris’ “Holiday on Ice”. There’s a great Christmas scene in “Goodfellas”. Ren and Stimpy’s “Have Yourself a Stinky Little Christmas”. Tons more.

  32. mimi

      Perhaps what needs to be considered is sub-“The Dead”-quality holiday fare. There’s always “The Gift of the Magi” which we all read in middle school. David Sedaris’ “Holiday on Ice”. There’s a great Christmas scene in “Goodfellas”. Ren and Stimpy’s “Have Yourself a Stinky Little Christmas”. Tons more.

  33. mimi

      Blake – I always enjoy reading what you write on HTML GIANT, in posts and comment threads. You are lively and reactive. I have “Scorch Atlas” in my nightstand-reading-queue and am looking forward… I’ll let you know what I think!

  34. mimi

      Blake – I always enjoy reading what you write on HTML GIANT, in posts and comment threads. You are lively and reactive. I have “Scorch Atlas” in my nightstand-reading-queue and am looking forward… I’ll let you know what I think!

  35. Blake Butler

      thank you mimi, i hope you enjoy

  36. Blake Butler

      thank you mimi, i hope you enjoy

  37. Sean

      Isn’t that Kyle Minor Dzanc book opening story around some holiday?

      Just thinking out loud here…

      Getting a Jhump Lahiri vibe here, too, maybe Halloween, but can’t name it…

      Remember, the category if “holiday” not Xmas.

  38. Sean

      Isn’t that Kyle Minor Dzanc book opening story around some holiday?

      Just thinking out loud here…

      Getting a Jhump Lahiri vibe here, too, maybe Halloween, but can’t name it…

      Remember, the category if “holiday” not Xmas.

  39. Dan Wickett

      Sean,

      Yes it is, right before Christmas if I remember right – it’s Bowl Season, and I believe it’s one of the earlier ones that the family is watching while all else goes on.

  40. Dan Wickett

      Sean,

      Yes it is, right before Christmas if I remember right – it’s Bowl Season, and I believe it’s one of the earlier ones that the family is watching while all else goes on.

  41. Tim Horvath

      If all holidays are fair game, Rick Moody’s “Demonology”‘s in contention.

  42. Tim Horvath

      If all holidays are fair game, Rick Moody’s “Demonology”‘s in contention.

  43. mark

      “A Midnight Clear,” Thom Jones, Sonny Liston Was a Friend of Mine

  44. mark

      “A Midnight Clear,” Thom Jones, Sonny Liston Was a Friend of Mine

  45. Michael Fischer
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  47. Lily Hoang

      faust is good christmas reading…

  48. Lily Hoang

      faust is good christmas reading…

  49. Andrew

      Terry Gilliam’s film “Brazil” remains the perfect, ahem, “holiday text.” Your best friend always turns out to be your torturer, but that’s never more true than at Christmas.

      And there’s always room for Big Baby Jesus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bnuVA0yXUM

  50. Andrew

      Terry Gilliam’s film “Brazil” remains the perfect, ahem, “holiday text.” Your best friend always turns out to be your torturer, but that’s never more true than at Christmas.

      And there’s always room for Big Baby Jesus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bnuVA0yXUM

  51. Marc Belarich

      Apparently The Dead is now The Ugly. Boulder Colorado? Who are they kidding? Gabriel has undergone a sex change and so has poor Gretta – they are now Gabriella and Garett, and Freddy Malins speaks Spansih. And Mr Browne is now a teetotaler and born-again Christian – somebody should sue this woman.
      thedeadandtheugly.com

  52. Marc Belarich

      Apparently The Dead is now The Ugly. Boulder Colorado? Who are they kidding? Gabriel has undergone a sex change and so has poor Gretta – they are now Gabriella and Garett, and Freddy Malins speaks Spansih. And Mr Browne is now a teetotaler and born-again Christian – somebody should sue this woman.
      thedeadandtheugly.com

  53. H.McCreesh

      Anyone know “Chicago Christmas, 1984” by George Saunders? I really enjoyed that story–really moving towards the end.

      Of course, I really enjoyed “The Dead” as well…I can’t tell if that makes what I think good or bad!

  54. H.McCreesh

      Anyone know “Chicago Christmas, 1984” by George Saunders? I really enjoyed that story–really moving towards the end.

      Of course, I really enjoyed “The Dead” as well…I can’t tell if that makes what I think good or bad!

  55. Sean
  56. Sean