April 30th, 2010 / 3:11 pm
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how long is a book though

60 Comments

  1. BAC

      as long as it needs to be.

      i read Goodnight Moon to my daughter every night. i think it’s 12 pages.

      it’s a book.

      goodnight bowl of mush.

  2. Nathan Tyree

      at least one word. No more than an infinite number of words.

  3. BAC

      i want to write an 800 page book called Conservation. I want the book to be 12inches by 12 inches. Centered on the 400th page simply– “What?.” The rest of the thing blank.

      Just wrote it. Who wants to publish it?

  4. Nathan Tyree
  5. BAC

      is it blank on the inside?

  6. Nathan Tyree

      Last page says Q.E.D. other than that it is blank

  7. BAC

      you brilliant sun of a bitch.

  8. magick mike

      what about photobooks? abstract comics? comics without words? art books? books filled exclusively with musical notation? books filled exclusively with numbers and symbols? books with no content but pages of homemade paper? books with different colors pages and no content?

  9. Nathan Tyree

      it made me giggle and giggle when we came up with it

  10. magick mike

      “joke” or “conceptual writing”?

  11. BAC

      ooh. burn.

  12. Nathan Tyree

      damn!

      Okay. At least one page. No more than an infinite number of pages. Better?

  13. BAC

      my books gonnna be 170 pages, and sometimes when i take it into the shower in the locker room of my local gym i look at over at some of the other people’s books and they’re like 200 pages, and then I talk about how cold the water is.

  14. Nathan Tyree

      I think joke. We weren’t being avante garde; just fucking around a bit. Still, I am obsessed with the idea that you can make art from nothing: an empty frame, blank film, a man not playing a piano. These can all be art because art is context. Yes?

  15. BAC

      “The Madonna of the Future”

  16. darby

      two years

  17. Nathan Tyree

      A decade with Infinite Jest is not enough. And yet, one hour with The Bridges of Madison County is too much.

  18. Sean

      14 pp

  19. Neil

      According to a plurality of publishers, 75 pages is the cutoff between novella and novel. 50-74 pages is definitely a novella. 1-49 pages is a short story.

      Writers, however, disagree. They think that short stories and novellas are interchangeable and should be labeled as short novels. These are 1-99 pages. Novels are always 100-1,000 pages.

      Critics think both are wrong. For them, the lines are a little more blurry. Short stories are 1-75 pages. Novellas are 50-100 pages. Novels are 75-1,000.

      I think that all three groups are right, because book length is totally subjective, you know? So, they’re all right, but, paradoxically, they’re all wrong.

  20. anon

      What happens if the book is over 1000 pages?

  21. Neil

      For that we have to turn to editors. They believe that a novel is between 100 and (symbol for infinity).

  22. dan

      that’s what she said

  23. anon

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  24. darby

  25. gene

      5. the fake ass title page, the real title page, a page, and then the arbitrary two blank pages that come at the end of every book and nobody knows why.

  26. davidpeak

      i think, i don’t know if any of this is true, but i think that a bound book has to be a certain amount of pages, divisible by 4, i think. so those blanks at the end are to round things out. also you can take notes on them!

  27. Ryan Call

      wikipedia says they are called sections, each made up of a number of bifolios.

  28. davidpeak

      good info. getting very close to answering adam’s question. or whatever is. interrogative statement.

  29. sm

      Those are signatures and depending on the kind of book (trade paperback, mass market, hardcover) and possibly the printer, they usually mean that a book’s pages must be divisible by 8, and any blank pages at the end are inserted to meet that standard. Also on the pragmatic/publishing side: a book’s length and price point are related as is the cost of printing, so theoretically a book has to be long or short enough to be able to be priced in such a way that its sales will be the highest and its printing expenses the lowest. Short books are more expensive to print and so are long books. There’s a kind of maximum economy around 250 or 300 pages I think, if I remember my editorial days well enough. And that is the bloodless, Big Publishing answer.

  30. BAC

      as long as it needs to be.

      i read Goodnight Moon to my daughter every night. i think it’s 12 pages.

      it’s a book.

      goodnight bowl of mush.

  31. Nathan Tyree

      at least one word. No more than an infinite number of words.

  32. BAC

      i want to write an 800 page book called Conservation. I want the book to be 12inches by 12 inches. Centered on the 400th page simply– “What?.” The rest of the thing blank.

      Just wrote it. Who wants to publish it?

  33. Nathan Tyree
  34. BAC

      is it blank on the inside?

  35. Nathan Tyree

      Last page says Q.E.D. other than that it is blank

  36. BAC

      you brilliant sun of a bitch.

  37. magick mike

      what about photobooks? abstract comics? comics without words? art books? books filled exclusively with musical notation? books filled exclusively with numbers and symbols? books with no content but pages of homemade paper? books with different colors pages and no content?

  38. Nathan Tyree

      it made me giggle and giggle when we came up with it

  39. magick mike

      “joke” or “conceptual writing”?

  40. BAC

      ooh. burn.

  41. Nathan Tyree

      damn!

      Okay. At least one page. No more than an infinite number of pages. Better?

  42. BAC

      my books gonnna be 170 pages, and sometimes when i take it into the shower in the locker room of my local gym i look at over at some of the other people’s books and they’re like 200 pages, and then I talk about how cold the water is.

  43. Nathan Tyree

      I think joke. We weren’t being avante garde; just fucking around a bit. Still, I am obsessed with the idea that you can make art from nothing: an empty frame, blank film, a man not playing a piano. These can all be art because art is context. Yes?

  44. BAC

      “The Madonna of the Future”

  45. darby

      two years

  46. Nathan Tyree

      A decade with Infinite Jest is not enough. And yet, one hour with The Bridges of Madison County is too much.

  47. Sean

      14 pp

  48. Neil

      According to a plurality of publishers, 75 pages is the cutoff between novella and novel. 50-74 pages is definitely a novella. 1-49 pages is a short story.

      Writers, however, disagree. They think that short stories and novellas are interchangeable and should be labeled as short novels. These are 1-99 pages. Novels are always 100-1,000 pages.

      Critics think both are wrong. For them, the lines are a little more blurry. Short stories are 1-75 pages. Novellas are 50-100 pages. Novels are 75-1,000.

      I think that all three groups are right, because book length is totally subjective, you know? So, they’re all right, but, paradoxically, they’re all wrong.

  49. anon

      What happens if the book is over 1000 pages?

  50. Neil

      For that we have to turn to editors. They believe that a novel is between 100 and (symbol for infinity).

  51. dan

      that’s what she said

  52. anon

      …….ooo………..ooo………
      …..o……o……o…….o……
      …o……….o..o………..o….
      …o……….o..o………..o….
      …..o……o……o…….o……
      …….ooo………..ooo………

  53. gene

      5. the fake ass title page, the real title page, a page, and then the arbitrary two blank pages that come at the end of every book and nobody knows why.

  54. Ryan Call

      wikipedia says they are called sections, each made up of a number of bifolios.

  55. davidpeak

      good info. getting very close to answering adam’s question. or whatever is. interrogative statement.

  56. sm

      Those are signatures and depending on the kind of book (trade paperback, mass market, hardcover) and possibly the printer, they usually mean that a book’s pages must be divisible by 8, and any blank pages at the end are inserted to meet that standard. Also on the pragmatic/publishing side: a book’s length and price point are related as is the cost of printing, so theoretically a book has to be long or short enough to be able to be priced in such a way that its sales will be the highest and its printing expenses the lowest. Short books are more expensive to print and so are long books. There’s a kind of maximum economy around 250 or 300 pages I think, if I remember my editorial days well enough. And that is the bloodless, Big Publishing answer.

  57. davis

      Glad to see the proof of god in here. I have _blank: a novel_, coming out soon from jaded ibis. 200 pages…

  58. davis

      Glad to see the proof of god in here. I have _blank: a novel_, coming out soon from jaded ibis. 200 pages…

  59. magick mike

      then you have written the sun

  60. magick mike

      then you have written the sun