May 3rd, 2011 / 8:15 pm
Snippets
Snippets
Reynard Seifert—
“I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.” — Jessica Dovey “Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.” — Martin Luther King, Jr.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/fake-martin-luther-king-jr-quote_n_857044.html
wait was this an experiment?
First part of that quote is bananas, never said by MLK. From “Returning hate” it’s ok again.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0503/How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote
holy fuck you guys are right, okay i’m just gonna change it, no sense in spreading false information, i knew the other part, damn what a world
“Always triple-check thing you find on the internets”
– Albert Einstein
“Always triple-check thing you find on the internets”
– Albert Einstein
from now on, albert, i am not even going to get quotes from the internet
thank you guys, i hope this does not detract from the fact that what mlk DID say is totally on point and made tears well up in my eyes at remembering that the autobiography of mlk was my favorite book in second grade, and for the lack of understanding that exists in the world
why do people do these things? i blame ben marcus and david markson
i’m going to go ahead and say the death of osama bin laden is a good thing for the entire world. considering the administration the US has now, there’s actually a chance what happened could stand to serve as an important precedent for meaningful international law. the US essentially invaded pakistan for less than an hour, gunned down an internationally minded, stateless mass murderer and got the hell out before whatever moneyed interest was coddling him in the first place could respond. i don’t necessarily care who the hell sits in the oval office, but you’ve got to be thankful for the immediate, pervading transparency regarding what went down and how it happened just hours after the event took place.
but when it comes to all that joyful shouting out in the streets, done by all those kids whose testicles more or less hadn’t descended, or whose mammaries hadn’t developed, when the twin towers went down (all the footage i saw was of college kids using the moment as an ultimate excuse to procrastinate), it speaks volumes of how pessimistic the US’s national character has been for the past decade.
anyway, here’s to hoping that display of all that rah-rah nationalism runs on skin deep. this next decade could be all about the constructive scaling back of the trappings of empire. someone better find a way to make building towards utopia economically viable. and fast.
i’m going to go ahead and say the death of osama bin laden is a good thing for the entire world. considering the administration the US has now, there’s actually a chance what happened could stand to serve as an important precedent for meaningful international law. the US essentially invaded pakistan for less than an hour, gunned down an internationally minded, stateless mass murderer and got the hell out before whatever moneyed interest was coddling him in the first place could respond. i don’t necessarily care who the hell sits in the oval office, but you’ve got to be thankful for the immediate, pervading transparency regarding what went down and how it happened just hours after the event took place.
but when it comes to all that joyful shouting out in the streets, done by all those kids whose testicles more or less hadn’t descended, or whose mammaries hadn’t developed, when the twin towers went down (all the footage i saw was of college kids using the moment as an ultimate excuse to procrastinate), it speaks volumes of how pessimistic the US’s national character has been for the past decade.
anyway, here’s to hoping that display of all that rah-rah nationalism runs on skin deep. this next decade could be all about the constructive scaling back of the trappings of empire. someone better find a way to make building towards utopia economically viable. and fast.
i don’t think anyone (except radical muslims) thinks the death of bin laden was not good for the world, that is a dialectic approach to a situation that does not have dialectics
i wish i could have seen him go to trial, but i’m sure they wanted to take him out because it’s likely there would have been a hostage situation of some kind and no one wants that
justice is blind as a bat, which is to say: not really
My local coffee shop made a drink special called the Osama bin Latte: cup of steamed water with a shot of espresso at the top. (Shot in the head? Get it?)
Mission accomplished go Bulls
true. in a sense. dialectic perhaps a decade ago when it comes to muslim extremists. though you could just as easily argue that bin laden — what he came to represent — was the poster boy for a world run tyrannically. and lord knows that’s today a great deal of the functioning gov’ts worldwide.
which is why i say i hope his demise leads to the revitalization of open, civil societies. ‘china’s rise’ may amount to BS if the open societies of the world start acting and governing as rationally as its populaces typically think.
a trial is what should’ve been happening to all his cohorts a decade ago. moving forward takes time. etc. etc.
justice sonar? the blind lady justice just needs to pipe up and shriek once in a while, to get a lay of the room, land so that she can act accordingly.
It was only a matter of time
–Dr. Emmett Brown
“the US essentially invaded pakistan for less than an hour…”
Except for the part where the US has been bombing their border villages since Obama took office.
it was my understanding the drone strikes are done in concert with their country’s leadership. i could be wrong.
–pseudo-reynard (possibly culled from electronic conversation), ca. early-21st c. a. D.
–pseudo-reynard (possibly culled from electronic conversation), ca. early-21st c. a. D.
since well before Obama took office?
since well before Obama took office?
no complaint, no explanation
definitely no apology:
I wrote stairbird and freeway to heaven
It depends on who you ask. Pakistan’s official line is one of condemnation but apparently they’ve been supplying intelligence/resources. But the Pakistani gov’t’s cooperation with the US is largely irrelevant to the people living in the places that have been under attack, especially since from what I’ve heard, the gov’t doesn’t hold much legitimacy in that segment of the population’s minds. I would liken it to how technically we (the US) haven’t been in an officially declared war since wwII. It’s all just new terms for the same things.
deadgod you are officially on my short-list of things I’ve read on the internet that have made me laugh out loud.
In the Torah, it’s written that one should not celebrate the death of an enemy: “When your enemy falls, do not rejoice, and when he stumbles, let your heart not exult, lest the Lord see and be displeased, and turn His wrath away from him. Do not compete with evildoers; do not envy the wicked for there will be no future for an evil one; the lamp of the wicked will flicker.” (Mishlei 24:17-20)
Witty coffee shop workers.
How much did it cost – over/under $3?
Used to be that people knew how to cut and paste properly.
Under. I mean you think about it it’s just an Americano OHHHHHH SHITIITITITITIT
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in the bible too (in fact these passages look identical, even, apparently, down to the chapter and verses):
Proverbs 24:17-18
17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: 18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.
Red/white/blue cup?
Just plain-old see-through glass. Don’t ruin this for me!
Hah hah. Okay.
trey, the old testament is the hebrew bible, muslims also accept the torah as a holy book
i know right? beyond that facebook has a reblog feature now so there’s really no excuse
really? I can’t believe I didn’t know that. sometimes I feel uneducated. nearly all I know about religion I learned from the church of christ when I was a kid.
so what I really mean is I can believe I didn’t know that
thanks for that, unfortunately in the torah it’s also written that an eye for eye is a good idea and king david of course was a celebrated tyrant himself
Tsk tsk tsk… a site for writers and you fall for this ridiculous propaganda as hard as any semi-literate stooges. Anyone here heard of the term “October Surprise”? I guess October came early this election cycle… because Obama’s numbers were looking *so* bleak… but, wait… voila! The Incumbent pulls a (dead cartoon) rabbit out of his hat and the suckas, rubes and n00bs are cheering!
As two cynical cunts (for whom I feel some affection) wrote, in an exchange, yesterday:
“Steven Augustine permalink
May 2, 2011 7:12 PM
Christ, I’m going to have to shut down my Facebook account. From the “hip-hip-hoorays” I have to look at in the comment threads of friends-of-friends to the “serious” discussions even some actual friends are having about whether things will be “better” now that “Osama” is “out of the picture”. As I commented (with ultimate restraint) in one such thread:
“Remember when they whacked Che? They were pretty eager to show that photo of his corpse, weren’t they? Because, you know, who would be gullible enough to take their word for it, right? People who weren’t completely brainwashed into perfect gullibility would never have accepted that the “terrorist” was dead without at least seeing a similar-looking body on that table.
Can you imagine how everyone would have laughed, back then, if they had said, “We killed Che Guevara! But, uh, you can’t see the body, or perform an autopsy on it, because, uh… we buried it at sea! Immediately!” Imagine the mirth! Imagine what Tom Lehrer, alone, would have done with the stupendous absurdity of such a thing (especially shortly before a Presidential re-election campaign)!
Just sayin’.”
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Mr M permalink*
May 2, 2011 7:57 PM
I know, Steven…when I first heard that, I laughed with incredulity/amusement: say what? You buried him at sea? You mean, in the great tradition of naval terrorists? And nobody said, “Erm…so…we can’t actually confirm that you killed the guy? Because you buried him at…erm…sea? Have I got that right? Are you fucking kidding me? They didn’t bury Admiral fucking Nelson at sea, but you decide to go all old-school navy with a Muslim terrorist? I need a drink”
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You’d think they’d have flown the body to a vault in the effing Pentagon basement (I hear the security is pretty good there) if all they feared were terrorist pilgrimages to the naughty body… but, obviously, there is no body… or it’s a body they couldn’t prove (with dental records or DNA) was the correct one. I can imagine the high-fives around the think-tank table when the guy came up with the “sea burial” idea. Picture them laughing their asses off at how stupid you are!
Oh, and the “admission” that “OBL” was “unarmed” and the ensuing “controversy”: brilliant! Supports the Big Lie nicely. But they’re pros, aren’t they? And you aren’t exactly the toughest audience in history…
Nixon and Stalin are *soooo* jealous.
From March, 2010:
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2010/0325-BinLaden.html
true.
an october surprise would be sending the same SEAL team after the most corrupt on wall street. in october. of next year.
Wait, you really believe they didn’t kill him?
It’s true, letters journal. Conspiracy theorist. Long winded bore. Man so self obsessed he quotes from his own facebook page. Patronizing twat. Armchair philosopher.
Truly, STaugustine is a man for all seasons.
Oh dear I’ve angered an anonymous dupe… must circle this day on the calendar!
If Obama doesn’t kill bin Laden, we’re very likely looking at Trump 2012.
“Conspiracy theorist.”
There’s a massive and intricate judicial framework for perceiving, quantifying, prosecuting and punishing conspiracies, you finger-sniffing nitwit. Every detective or prosecuting attorney is a “conspiracy theorist” at some point, along with anyone, for example, who’s noticed irregularities on the company ledgers and suspects the explanation is a concerted effort of a couple of co-workers rather than simple error. Did you think conspiracies are only real, by default, if they involve Panamanian drug barons instead of “respectable” white Yankee suits, you thumbsucking hayseed? Do you think a conspiracy can only be real if its exposure doesn’t threaten your heavily-medi(c)ated worldview? Many of the signal markers of 20th century *mainstream* American history (Teapot Dome; My Lai; Watergate; Agnew’s resignation; Iran Contra; The Keating Five; Enron, et al) are tombstones to massive conspiracies to mislead and/or bilk the electorate. But knowing any of this (or its relevance to the current “discussion”) would require having a “mind” that hasn’t been twisted into a Disney balloon-animal by Hegemony the Clown, right? Right. Go back to the retarded joys of enforced perpetual adolescence, Dude, and leave the “debating” to grownups. Unlikely, I know.
Maybe people would pay more attention to what you had to say if you weren’t such a defensive asshole. I mean, granted, you’re trolling, but don’t be such a crybaby about it.
Uh… yeah!
I only made that comment because i think you’re such a revolting cunt, STAugustine… I think you are a ridiculous moron with a comically inflated sense of his own importance. So dont go making assumptions about how my mind has been “Disney balloon-animal by Hegemony the Clown” or how much I trust the US government, or what my political beliefs are. I dont need to go around wearing them on my sleeve so everybody will see how clever and edgy I am. I made fun of you because you are essentially a comical, buffoonish figure. You are a prime example of how someone can be on the one hand “book smart”, but on the other hand as dumb as horse shit.
“There’s a massive and intricate judicial framework for perceiving, quantifying, prosecuting and punishing conspiracies, you finger-sniffing nitwit”
Really? Gosh, i never knew that. Thanks for enlightening me. Wow, deep. Wait, you’re gonna tell me that the government doesn’t always tell the truth next, aren’t you, you clever bastard?
By the way, I’m sniffing my fingers right now, STAugustine. I just pulled them out of your (mothers / wifes / sisters) crack and they smell like (skank / tapioca / Sarah Palin’s discharge)
You can choose your own insult there, thought it might make it more interesting for you… ;)
PS – did it really take you 24 hours to ruminate on my insult and post that reply? Golly, I feel special.
I like it!