July 12th, 2010 / 12:43 pm
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http://brevity.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/harvey-pekar-r-i-p/
I like this.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0akXKxbflM
Maybe I’m callous, but I find it really hard to care about the constant stream of dying old men.
Awww, geeze. Lame.
you’d prefer young women eh?
you mean like, as opposed to dying old women, or just old people dying in general.
ive kind of been having thoughts about the number of old dying people, and i wonder if like the number of even marginally famous people has just become so vast that it is inevitable to see the stream we are seeing, and it will only continue as a population grows and becomes more aware of the marginally famous.
Old people are stoopid. And lame.
Men tend to die younger than women, so there have been more of Pekar’s generation of late. The last famous woman I can think of who died was Louise Bourgeois and she was 98.
and yes, I would care more about young women dying (young men too). Who wouldn’t?
You are welcome to not care. That doesn’t mean I have to share your apathy to dying old men.
I doubt there has ever been anyone who has been as sanguine about receiving the cold, violet embrace of death as Harvey Pekar.
+1
it’s hard to care about any great artist’s death, since if they were good they’re not really dead
Except for the part where a) you realize this means no more new work or b) you actually know them and miss them or c) you are a human so you have feelings
Making a display of his books at the library today. Aghast when someone I work with – at a fucking library! – didn’t know who he was.
RIP
all good points but none as interesting or true as keats “a thing of beauty is a joy forever” or whitman “if you want me again look for me under your boot-soles” google it up
whitman was a fecal freak.
All the people who are going out of there way to say how indifferent they are to Pekar’s death are really cutting edge. I’m very impressed by your verbal shrugs. Oh, well. Compassion is weak and false. You guys rule.
I wasn’t trying to be cutting edge, I was saying men from this generation are dropping like flies and I find it difficult to care about it. Funny that in an obit for a notoriously straight-talking, honest guy people get so irrated at one person speaking his mind in a single sentence.
Well Mark, it’s been nice knowing your work and not you.
http://brevity.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/harvey-pekar-r-i-p/
I like this.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0akXKxbflM
Maybe I’m callous, but I find it really hard to care about the constant stream of dying old men.
Awww, geeze. Lame.
you’d prefer young women eh?
You prefaced it with, “maybe I’m callous…” I was simply agreeing with you.
you mean like, as opposed to dying old women, or just old people dying in general.
ive kind of been having thoughts about the number of old dying people, and i wonder if like the number of even marginally famous people has just become so vast that it is inevitable to see the stream we are seeing, and it will only continue as a population grows and becomes more aware of the marginally famous.
Fair enough.
Christ, I can still remember Dave pulling the wings off the fly of Harvey’s soul, right there on TV. Same thing he’d do to “Brother Theodore”, another “oddball”, a cabaret artist who came to Letterman straight from frigging Dachau, only to have Dave make fun of his hairdo! I’m ashamed that I used to laugh at sadisto-provincialist Dave going after “little guys” like Harvey as a moistening prelude to schlurrpping Donald Trump’s matted, ginger, robber-baron ass. Well I guess that’s the beauty of growing up. Decay with grace, Harve.
Old people are stoopid. And lame.
a true man can die but there are sadder things
what is heaven anyway but fresh bread & jazz records
Men tend to die younger than women, so there have been more of Pekar’s generation of late. The last famous woman I can think of who died was Louise Bourgeois and she was 98.
and yes, I would care more about young women dying (young men too). Who wouldn’t?
You are welcome to not care. That doesn’t mean I have to share your apathy to dying old men.
i don’t know why you say goodbye i say hello
Yes I know. Someday you may, though.
I doubt there has ever been anyone who has been as sanguine about receiving the cold, violet embrace of death as Harvey Pekar.
+1
it’s hard to care about any great artist’s death, since if they were good they’re not really dead
Except for the part where a) you realize this means no more new work or b) you actually know them and miss them or c) you are a human so you have feelings
Making a display of his books at the library today. Aghast when someone I work with – at a fucking library! – didn’t know who he was.
RIP
all good points but none as interesting or true as keats “a thing of beauty is a joy forever” or whitman “if you want me again look for me under your boot-soles” google it up
whitman was a fecal freak.
Tuli from The Fugs died, too.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbU8WCyVe8&feature=related
All the people who are going out of there way to say how indifferent they are to Pekar’s death are really cutting edge. I’m very impressed by your verbal shrugs. Oh, well. Compassion is weak and false. You guys rule.
I wasn’t trying to be cutting edge, I was saying men from this generation are dropping like flies and I find it difficult to care about it. Funny that in an obit for a notoriously straight-talking, honest guy people get so irrated at one person speaking his mind in a single sentence.
Well Mark, it’s been nice knowing your work and not you.
american splendorless
Also, I liked that thing you wrote about Witch House.
You prefaced it with, “maybe I’m callous…” I was simply agreeing with you.
Fair enough.
Christ, I can still remember Dave pulling the wings off the fly of Harvey’s soul, right there on TV. Same thing he’d do to “Brother Theodore”, another “oddball”, a cabaret artist who came to Letterman straight from frigging Dachau, only to have Dave make fun of his hairdo! I’m ashamed that I used to laugh at sadisto-provincialist Dave going after “little guys” like Harvey as a moistening prelude to schlurrpping Donald Trump’s matted, ginger, robber-baron ass. Well I guess that’s the beauty of growing up. Decay with grace, Harve.
he couldn’t have felt too much pain, considering he went on (we can assume voluntarily) 8 times.
a true man can die but there are sadder things
what is heaven anyway but fresh bread & jazz records
i don’t know why you say goodbye i say hello
Yes I know. Someday you may, though.
Tuli from The Fugs died, too.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbU8WCyVe8&feature=related
american splendorless
Also, I liked that thing you wrote about Witch House.
he couldn’t have felt too much pain, considering he went on (we can assume voluntarily) 8 times.
This one really did it for me. Harvey came to our university and he was a huge hit. Gracious, kind, really connected with the students. He wrote a comic about his visit (of course)
http://www.smithmag.net/pekarproject/2010/03/10/story-20/
I was eating dinner with him and we started talking about Russian authors. Just casually. The next day he seeks me out and hands me a long handwritten list of authors I should read.
Totally kind guy.
I’ll miss him.
This one really did it for me. Harvey came to our university and he was a huge hit. Gracious, kind, really connected with the students. He wrote a comic about his visit (of course)
http://www.smithmag.net/pekarproject/2010/03/10/story-20/
I was eating dinner with him and we started talking about Russian authors. Just casually. The next day he seeks me out and hands me a long handwritten list of authors I should read.
Totally kind guy.
I’ll miss him.
Only a guy under 42 could say something like that.
Only a guy under 42 could say something like that.