Author News
Tao Lin’s “All Purpose Promotional Video”: Reviewing the wrong one
Tao Lin offered me $2 to review an ‘all purpose promotional’ video which would be uploaded in 1-3 days, then said ‘just kidding.’ I was moved by the initial spirit behind the request and have done so (though I am reviewing the ‘wrong’ one. I will try to review the correct one too.) Please read this before viewing the movie. It will make you more excited for the movie, I hope. [I just spent five minutes trying to embed the source-code but it didn’t work, so what follows this review is a mere link.]
REVIEW: This review will not have a point, because I don’t think the ‘all purpose promotional’ video had a point, other than being an ‘all purpose promotional’ video. I will simply describe what I saw in the order of when I saw it, with light commentary. Also, I only watched the video once, taking quick notes, so I may be wrong at points. The ‘narrative’ might not make sense due to choppy avante garde editing.
BEGIN: Tao juggles a knife and drops it a few times standing in front of a white grand piano, like the one John Lennon had. Then Tao pretends to stab Zachary German in the face, incited by racial remarks said by German (which was scripted). German says 2-3 racial remarks, and gets his face pretend-stabbed each time. Then Zachary German and an unidentified Asian female ‘dry hump’ in an alley. Then Tao seems to be eating a ‘crispy’ chicken sandwich in a bar with extremely bad lighting, hence the difficultly making out the variables. The Asian companion has been identified as ‘Jamie,’ a girl who lives in Brooklyn. Eclipsing her face is either a glass of coke or stout. They talk about the effects of cayenne and Tao says — and this line should be in one of his poems — “your eyes are going to water, i can’t wait for that.” Then there’s reoccuring footage of Brandon Scott Gorrell sliding across, somewhat unsurely, a wet flat-crate. Then Tao is in a clearly lit restarant, no doubt where he first procured the chicken sandwhich, eating the sandwich. I was dissapointed for two reasons: 1) he is supposed to be vegan, and 2) he was chewing in a severly non-detached manner. Now enter the most post-modern portion of the video: Tao films one of his films playing on his computer. In the ‘filmed film’ he is eating noddles. At one point, he pauses on a frame of him with a massive amount of noddles in his mouth, and laughs. This was a complex moment full of pure joy for Tao. Then he’s eating (something else) on his bed, viewed behind his chair in a way that makes the bars of the chair-back look like prison bars. I doubt this was intentional. A punk song played in the background which went ‘fuck america’ over and over again. I was slightly disappointed because I thought Tao invented the phrase ‘fuck america.’ Then there’s footage of the scene in Hannah in Her Sister’s where Michael Caine’s character reads to her an e.e. cummings poem in a bookstore. Tao edits in a voice-over “EEE by Tao Lin” over the part where Caine says “e.e. cummings,” so that the subsequent discourse on cummings’ poetry is about Tao’s. Then the gang is back in the kitchen talking about food and German says “I love beef” in complete seriousness. There’s a discussion of fastfood and ‘Jamie’ (who is sexy) keeps on saying ‘wendy’s’ and ‘mcdonald’s’ in the background. Then Tao presents illustrations of his poodle Binky (I think that’s the name). Then Tao plays with a wine opener (the 2nd sharp projectile in this movie). Then they are on the street again, passing American Apparel — the subject of his shop-lifting essay and eponymous forthcoming Novella. Then Tao in being driven in a car by an unidentified caucasian woman w/ a BRITNEY SPEARS sticker on her dashboard. They drive in the night, past the lights, past everything, stopping at Quiznos.
CONCLUSION: Tao’s life is probably 65% good, 20% bad, and 15%uncatergorized. Zachary German was suprisingly non-ironic. He was so earnest about “i love beef” it was touching. I don’t see any ‘severe depression’ or ‘steady cash flow’ from anyone. Jamie’s voice was on the high-pitch side, but her beauty makes up for it. Brandon Scott Gorrell’s sense of balance and hair length is questionable. Overall, I enjoyed watching this video, and look forward to MUUMUU house releases and his own.
VIDEO IN MENTION
all-purpose promotional video from tao lin on Vimeo.
Tags: all purpose promotional video, muumuu house, Tao Lin
they should rename HTML GIANT to TAO LIN GIANT
they should rename HTML GIANT to TAO LIN GIANT
i’m dissapointed in you jimmy.
it was a nice chicken sandwich though.
i’m dissapointed in you jimmy.
it was a nice chicken sandwich though.
i don’t like that attidude duder. we are not fawning over him. tao’s a significant presence in indie-lit so obviously, we will talk about him.
i don’t like that attidude duder. we are not fawning over him. tao’s a significant presence in indie-lit so obviously, we will talk about him.
ha, i said ‘attidude’ because i kept thinking ‘duder’
barry your pubes are as thick as noddles
ha, i said ‘attidude’ because i kept thinking ‘duder’
barry your pubes are as thick as noddles
HTMLDUDER
HTMLDUDER
well to be honest i thought tao was being rude when he offered you $2 to review his video.
the meaning could be interpreted 2 ways (to me at least):
1. Pity
2. Sarcasm
I doubt the motivation here was pity.
Tao’s request reminds me of the guy at the bar who says “hey can i get a blow job? just kidding!’ to every woman he meets because he knows eventually he will get a blow job and the other girls won’t be mad because he was ‘just kidding’.
well to be honest i thought tao was being rude when he offered you $2 to review his video.
the meaning could be interpreted 2 ways (to me at least):
1. Pity
2. Sarcasm
I doubt the motivation here was pity.
Tao’s request reminds me of the guy at the bar who says “hey can i get a blow job? just kidding!’ to every woman he meets because he knows eventually he will get a blow job and the other girls won’t be mad because he was ‘just kidding’.
i think tao wanted me, or anyone, to simply write about muumuu house/nylon article/him. he’s probably saying the same thing to a bunch of other people. the better muumuu house does, the more money tao, brandon, ellen will make, and i support that. if i wrote a book, i’d want to make money too.
people accuse him of shameless self-promotion, but i think he thinks it’s just a practical way to get the word around. if anything, it lacks ego to be so unabashed about such things.
i think he was just joking about $2, and alot of people take everything he does too seriously. i think it’s funny how people jump to scrutinize every move tao makes, then resent his notoriety.
he’s a person i dont’ know who asked me to write about his movie so i did. i never thought of it as any ‘power struggle’. the strongest feeling i have about tao is “he is a great writer.” there’s nothing bad about thinking that.
i think tao wanted me, or anyone, to simply write about muumuu house/nylon article/him. he’s probably saying the same thing to a bunch of other people. the better muumuu house does, the more money tao, brandon, ellen will make, and i support that. if i wrote a book, i’d want to make money too.
people accuse him of shameless self-promotion, but i think he thinks it’s just a practical way to get the word around. if anything, it lacks ego to be so unabashed about such things.
i think he was just joking about $2, and alot of people take everything he does too seriously. i think it’s funny how people jump to scrutinize every move tao makes, then resent his notoriety.
he’s a person i dont’ know who asked me to write about his movie so i did. i never thought of it as any ‘power struggle’. the strongest feeling i have about tao is “he is a great writer.” there’s nothing bad about thinking that.
I enjoyed watching this video because people got excited and didn’t seem ‘detached’, ‘ironic’, ‘puke’, etc.
I enjoyed watching this video because people got excited and didn’t seem ‘detached’, ‘ironic’, ‘puke’, etc.
It needs to be color balanced. And there was, like, no plot. Whoever did the camera work was kind of shaky. And I’m pretty sure it was a fish sandwich.
It needs to be color balanced. And there was, like, no plot. Whoever did the camera work was kind of shaky. And I’m pretty sure it was a fish sandwich.
jereme, i’ll paypal you $5 if you publicly interpret all my actions from now on as likable and funny (in comments)
jimmy, thank you for writing about the video, i enjoyed reading the review
muumuu house is probably $2-$10 richer now ($5 of which i am offering to paypal to jereme; jereme email me)
jereme, i’ll paypal you $5 if you publicly interpret all my actions from now on as likable and funny (in comments)
jimmy, thank you for writing about the video, i enjoyed reading the review
muumuu house is probably $2-$10 richer now ($5 of which i am offering to paypal to jereme; jereme email me)
hahaha
hahaha
i think it is funny to film yourself eating a fish or chicken sandwich if you are a vegan.
that is probably the only time that someone filming themselves eating a fish or chicken sandwich, in a normal way, could be funny
i think it is funny to film yourself eating a fish or chicken sandwich if you are a vegan.
that is probably the only time that someone filming themselves eating a fish or chicken sandwich, in a normal way, could be funny
“i think tao wanted me, or anyone, to simply write about muumuu house/nylon article/him. he’s probably saying the same thing to a bunch of other people. the better muumuu house does, the more money tao, brandon, ellen will make, and i support that. if i wrote a book, i’d want to make money too.”
oh yes. we concur here.
“people accuse him of shameless self-promotion, but i think he thinks it’s just a practical way to get the word around. if anything, it lacks ego to be so unabashed about such things”
he does ‘shamelessly promote’. he promotes better than any one else. people should note and copy his marketing scheme.
we differ on our definitions of ego i think.
“i think he was just joking about $2, and alot of people take everything he does too seriously. i think it’s funny how people jump to scrutinize every move tao makes, then resent his notoriety.”
I don’t think so. we can differ. it is okay.
i think he was being serious and retracted the statement after realizing it was going to be costly to leave the offer on the table.
look at the time stamp of his original comment and compare it to the second ‘just kidding’ comment time stamp.
34 minutes transpired. zachary german probably im’ed him (while looking at himself in the mirror) and said ‘it is going to be costly’. so tao came back and negated the offer before it was accepted.
this resulted in him looking like a sarcastic dick (to me).
i do not resent his notoriety.
“he’s a person i dont’ know who asked me to write about his movie so i did. i never thought of it as any ‘power struggle’. the strongest feeling i have about tao is “he is a great writer.” there’s nothing bad about thinking that.”
i am not sure why you are defending your post. I did not say ‘you should have not posted this’.
“i think tao wanted me, or anyone, to simply write about muumuu house/nylon article/him. he’s probably saying the same thing to a bunch of other people. the better muumuu house does, the more money tao, brandon, ellen will make, and i support that. if i wrote a book, i’d want to make money too.”
oh yes. we concur here.
“people accuse him of shameless self-promotion, but i think he thinks it’s just a practical way to get the word around. if anything, it lacks ego to be so unabashed about such things”
he does ‘shamelessly promote’. he promotes better than any one else. people should note and copy his marketing scheme.
we differ on our definitions of ego i think.
“i think he was just joking about $2, and alot of people take everything he does too seriously. i think it’s funny how people jump to scrutinize every move tao makes, then resent his notoriety.”
I don’t think so. we can differ. it is okay.
i think he was being serious and retracted the statement after realizing it was going to be costly to leave the offer on the table.
look at the time stamp of his original comment and compare it to the second ‘just kidding’ comment time stamp.
34 minutes transpired. zachary german probably im’ed him (while looking at himself in the mirror) and said ‘it is going to be costly’. so tao came back and negated the offer before it was accepted.
this resulted in him looking like a sarcastic dick (to me).
i do not resent his notoriety.
“he’s a person i dont’ know who asked me to write about his movie so i did. i never thought of it as any ‘power struggle’. the strongest feeling i have about tao is “he is a great writer.” there’s nothing bad about thinking that.”
i am not sure why you are defending your post. I did not say ‘you should have not posted this’.
likable and funny are subjective. you are setting me up to fail.
likable and funny are subjective. you are setting me up to fail.
sounds like a laugh a thon.
sounds like a laugh a thon.
i’m tired. i’m going home to see my parents today for the holidays.
i’m tired. i’m going home to see my parents today for the holidays.
i will write my thought processes regarding the comments
i think the first thing i thought was ‘jimmy’s thing on indesign is related to the video i think, i would be interested in reading him writing about the video, the promotional video’
then i thought ‘maybe it will be funny to offer jimmy a small amount of money through paypal for him to write about the video, in the context of html giant i think that will be funny, i think probably 60% chance it will make it “off limits” for anyone on html giant to write about the video if i make that comment, due to fear of like “taking bribes” or something and ruining html giant’s integrity, but i think it is worth it for me to post the comment because i think it is a funny comment to post’
then i posted it and thought ‘some people might think i’m being serious and trying to do something or something, i’ll make another comment saying just kidding, that will be funny, or, no, it’s not that funny maybe’
then later on i thought ‘it’s been an amount of time, like more than 30 minutes, if i now post “just kidding” i think it will be funny due to the large amount of time that has passed, it will seem like i’ve been thinking about it for a long time, or something else, and i will feel that it is funny’
i will write my thought processes regarding the comments
i think the first thing i thought was ‘jimmy’s thing on indesign is related to the video i think, i would be interested in reading him writing about the video, the promotional video’
then i thought ‘maybe it will be funny to offer jimmy a small amount of money through paypal for him to write about the video, in the context of html giant i think that will be funny, i think probably 60% chance it will make it “off limits” for anyone on html giant to write about the video if i make that comment, due to fear of like “taking bribes” or something and ruining html giant’s integrity, but i think it is worth it for me to post the comment because i think it is a funny comment to post’
then i posted it and thought ‘some people might think i’m being serious and trying to do something or something, i’ll make another comment saying just kidding, that will be funny, or, no, it’s not that funny maybe’
then later on i thought ‘it’s been an amount of time, like more than 30 minutes, if i now post “just kidding” i think it will be funny due to the large amount of time that has passed, it will seem like i’ve been thinking about it for a long time, or something else, and i will feel that it is funny’
for some reason i read this as “laugh a tuna”
also, i forgot to mention likable
for some reason i read this as “laugh a tuna”
also, i forgot to mention likable
by ‘related to the video’ i mean i envisioned the story or story’s tone being applied to the video and it being something i felt interested in reading
by ‘related to the video’ i mean i envisioned the story or story’s tone being applied to the video and it being something i felt interested in reading
haha indesign is an adobe application. i’m still tired, and going to my parents.
haha indesign is an adobe application. i’m still tired, and going to my parents.
matthew that was dyslexia i think. or italian air is too humid.
indesign
haha
matthew that was dyslexia i think. or italian air is too humid.
indesign
haha
jimmy, i realized that if you take the vowels out of your name, it almost doesnt change at all:
jmmy chn
jimmy, i realized that if you take the vowels out of your name, it almost doesnt change at all:
jmmy chn
thank you pat sajack
thank you pat sajack
except “y” is a vowel sometimes
so it would be
jmm chen
more stern/action hero
except “y” is a vowel sometimes
so it would be
jmm chen
more stern/action hero
jimmy:
im not dissapointed in the post. im dissapointed in your skills of negotiation. you shoulda held out for the two bucks and bought yourself one of those nice chicken sandwiches
“he’s a person i dont’ know who asked me to write about his movie so i did.”
i hear ya man, but it was still someone you’ve heard of. would you post for ANYBODY who asked that you didn’t know?
jimmy:
im not dissapointed in the post. im dissapointed in your skills of negotiation. you shoulda held out for the two bucks and bought yourself one of those nice chicken sandwiches
“he’s a person i dont’ know who asked me to write about his movie so i did.”
i hear ya man, but it was still someone you’ve heard of. would you post for ANYBODY who asked that you didn’t know?
barry i’m gonna do a dogzplot review post one day cuz i don’t know you.
barry i’m gonna do a dogzplot review post one day cuz i don’t know you.
mike your last name becomes vietnamese:
ng
mike your last name becomes vietnamese:
ng
mk ng
i like it
mk ng
i like it
i think the topic of the sandwich is more interesting than anything else here.
so is that sandwich from chick-fil-a? i used to eat their sandwiches all the time, but i think the nuggets are so much better. and what about that polynesian sauce? fuck yeah.
***please reply with your opinions, i am very excited to hear about chicken sandwiches.
i think the topic of the sandwich is more interesting than anything else here.
so is that sandwich from chick-fil-a? i used to eat their sandwiches all the time, but i think the nuggets are so much better. and what about that polynesian sauce? fuck yeah.
***please reply with your opinions, i am very excited to hear about chicken sandwiches.
p.s. i am prettier than zachary german
p.s. i am prettier than zachary german
i concur with gena.
tao,
so you are saying you did not actually think ‘i like jimmy as a writer’ but thought ‘this would be a good time to promote myself’
thank you for affirming everything i knew to be true.
i concur with gena.
tao,
so you are saying you did not actually think ‘i like jimmy as a writer’ but thought ‘this would be a good time to promote myself’
thank you for affirming everything i knew to be true.
you guys are right, and mike, that is great, you should change your public name to mk ng
you guys are right, and mike, that is great, you should change your public name to mk ng
i have no comment about the shit-storm that may come. i will be in clayton california visiting my mom and dad and grandma. i will watch a lot of comcast ‘on demand.’ thank you jereme and tao. good bye.
i have no comment about the shit-storm that may come. i will be in clayton california visiting my mom and dad and grandma. i will watch a lot of comcast ‘on demand.’ thank you jereme and tao. good bye.
jimmy,
you need to work on your confrontational skills. you are so passive.
jimmy,
you need to work on your confrontational skills. you are so passive.
i have an aversion to shitstorms too
i have an aversion to shitstorms too
i have to go to clayton california soon to see my parents. i don’t have time for shit-storms.
i have to go to clayton california soon to see my parents. i don’t have time for shit-storms.
i thought ‘i like jimmy’s tone in the story, the story has people video’ing things, it would be interesting to me to read him write about the promotional video, it would be something i would enjoy reading’
i thought ‘i like jimmy’s tone in the story, the story has people video’ing things, it would be interesting to me to read him write about the promotional video, it would be something i would enjoy reading’
jereme
jereme
i agree with you about the chicken sandwich
i agree with you about the chicken sandwich
tao
tao
jereme, do you view muumuu house as me promoting myself
i didn’t know anyone published by muumuu house 3-5 years ago
do you think after 3-5 years, if i don’t want you to think certain things, i should ‘abandon’ those people and find new people to promote
what if i hired a publicist to promote me, would you view that as me promoting myself or the publicist promoting me
also what if i got a ‘real job,’ would you view me being at the job, folding boxes or something, as me promoting myself, in a way, to the manager, in order to make an amount of money
what if i sent out resumes to places to some kind of teaching job or something, would that be promoting myself on the same level as posting on my blog if anyone wants to write about muumuu house
jereme, do you view muumuu house as me promoting myself
i didn’t know anyone published by muumuu house 3-5 years ago
do you think after 3-5 years, if i don’t want you to think certain things, i should ‘abandon’ those people and find new people to promote
what if i hired a publicist to promote me, would you view that as me promoting myself or the publicist promoting me
also what if i got a ‘real job,’ would you view me being at the job, folding boxes or something, as me promoting myself, in a way, to the manager, in order to make an amount of money
what if i sent out resumes to places to some kind of teaching job or something, would that be promoting myself on the same level as posting on my blog if anyone wants to write about muumuu house
also do you think i don’t really like any of the writing on muumuuhouse.com or care about any of the people on muumuuhouse.com, that i am just promoting myself by publishing writing that i don’t like by people i don’t care about, do you think that
also do you think i don’t really like any of the writing on muumuuhouse.com or care about any of the people on muumuuhouse.com, that i am just promoting myself by publishing writing that i don’t like by people i don’t care about, do you think that
i want to ask a lot of questions eliciting long answers and then go away
haha
i want to ask a lot of questions eliciting long answers and then go away
haha
tao,
“jereme, do you view muumuu house as me promoting myself”
yes. you are promoting your aesthetic and your legacy.
“do you think after 3-5 years, if i don’t want you to think certain things, i should ‘abandon’ those people and find new people to promote”
ask me in 3-5 years. i don’t have an opinion right now.
“what if i hired a publicist to promote me, would you view that as me promoting myself or the publicist promoting me”
you are promoting yourself by paying some one to promote you. it is both.
“also what if i got a ‘real job,’ would you view me being at the job, folding boxes or something, as me promoting myself, in a way, to the manager, in order to make an amount of money”
no. you placing a neon sign to draw the manager’s attention to your box folding? yes.
“what if i sent out resumes to places to some kind of teaching job or something, would that be promoting myself on the same level as posting on my blog if anyone wants to write about muumuu house”
no it is not the same level. a resume is a response to an opening.
posting about muumuu house is not the same at all. especially when it is done in a manipulative manner.
i think you are awesome at self promotion. other writers should study your technique. i’ve always states this.
oh, mike, i just realized something else:
if you take the consonants out of your name, it becomes:
ie you
tao,
“jereme, do you view muumuu house as me promoting myself”
yes. you are promoting your aesthetic and your legacy.
“do you think after 3-5 years, if i don’t want you to think certain things, i should ‘abandon’ those people and find new people to promote”
ask me in 3-5 years. i don’t have an opinion right now.
“what if i hired a publicist to promote me, would you view that as me promoting myself or the publicist promoting me”
you are promoting yourself by paying some one to promote you. it is both.
“also what if i got a ‘real job,’ would you view me being at the job, folding boxes or something, as me promoting myself, in a way, to the manager, in order to make an amount of money”
no. you placing a neon sign to draw the manager’s attention to your box folding? yes.
“what if i sent out resumes to places to some kind of teaching job or something, would that be promoting myself on the same level as posting on my blog if anyone wants to write about muumuu house”
no it is not the same level. a resume is a response to an opening.
posting about muumuu house is not the same at all. especially when it is done in a manipulative manner.
i think you are awesome at self promotion. other writers should study your technique. i’ve always states this.
oh, mike, i just realized something else:
if you take the consonants out of your name, it becomes:
ie you
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Seriousbusiness2.jpg
i’m done.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Seriousbusiness2.jpg
i’m done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivw_0IVtXes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivw_0IVtXes
of course you like it. most of it is similar to your own writing. how could you not like it?
i think you care about those people as much as you can care for people.
sorry no long answers.
of course you like it. most of it is similar to your own writing. how could you not like it?
i think you care about those people as much as you can care for people.
sorry no long answers.
jereme, what if i promoted writing that i do not feel excited or interested in reading, would that not be considered self-promotion, then, in your view
what if instead of linking to muumuu house on my blog i linked to gus van sant’s website if he has a website, or quentin tarantino’s imdb page or something, would that not be self-promotion
what if instead of making muumuu house i just worked on getting promotions at work in a restaurant and didn’t do things on the internet, would that then not be self-promoting, or would it, since i would be trying to get promotions
what if i just stayed in my room and didn’t say anything and whenever in public around people i censored myself from saying ‘i like _____’ unless the thing that i was saying i liked was something i didn’t like and was completely different from myself and anything that i like, would that then not be self-promoting?
what if i trained myself to like writing that is completely different than my writing, and in the process learned to enjoy writing books that are completely different (constantly completely different, since once it was written down it would be what my writing was like) from what my writing is like, would that be non self-promoting?
what if i wrote what philip roth wanted to read instead of what i wanted to read, and then sincerely liked it, and then published writing on muumuu house that is what ‘tao lin’ wants to read, but doesn’t actually like, because if i liked it it would be a self-promoting activity, and then after my book is published that is what philip roth wants to read i just delete it instead of releasing it
what if i met someone i liked and instead of talking to them or making facial expressions at them to promote myself to them i went home and published writing on muumuu house that i do not like and then linked to it on my blog while writing books that i do not like (but somehow having another persona, created somehow, that makes it so people can see that the writing on muumuu house and the books i write is completely different than my own writing) but also liking it in a non-self promoting way, would that be self-promoting
victory
jereme, what if i promoted writing that i do not feel excited or interested in reading, would that not be considered self-promotion, then, in your view
what if instead of linking to muumuu house on my blog i linked to gus van sant’s website if he has a website, or quentin tarantino’s imdb page or something, would that not be self-promotion
what if instead of making muumuu house i just worked on getting promotions at work in a restaurant and didn’t do things on the internet, would that then not be self-promoting, or would it, since i would be trying to get promotions
what if i just stayed in my room and didn’t say anything and whenever in public around people i censored myself from saying ‘i like _____’ unless the thing that i was saying i liked was something i didn’t like and was completely different from myself and anything that i like, would that then not be self-promoting?
what if i trained myself to like writing that is completely different than my writing, and in the process learned to enjoy writing books that are completely different (constantly completely different, since once it was written down it would be what my writing was like) from what my writing is like, would that be non self-promoting?
what if i wrote what philip roth wanted to read instead of what i wanted to read, and then sincerely liked it, and then published writing on muumuu house that is what ‘tao lin’ wants to read, but doesn’t actually like, because if i liked it it would be a self-promoting activity, and then after my book is published that is what philip roth wants to read i just delete it instead of releasing it
what if i met someone i liked and instead of talking to them or making facial expressions at them to promote myself to them i went home and published writing on muumuu house that i do not like and then linked to it on my blog while writing books that i do not like (but somehow having another persona, created somehow, that makes it so people can see that the writing on muumuu house and the books i write is completely different than my own writing) but also liking it in a non-self promoting way, would that be self-promoting
victory
matthew you are my new favorite for a long time
matthew you are my new favorite for a long time
Ken, I was there. They were both detached *and* ironic. I don’t know if they were puke or not.
Ken, I was there. They were both detached *and* ironic. I don’t know if they were puke or not.
yes you are
yes you are
I agree.
As much as a sense of victory can be had, here, I think Tao has it.
I agree.
As much as a sense of victory can be had, here, I think Tao has it.
what if we all had lives
what if we all had lives
what relevance is any of this to the original discussion?
i am full aware you self promote. i have no issues with you self promoting. i think you are smarmy and manipulative in the manner you do it.
this is what i pointed out.
you could easily have emailed jimmy and asked him to review your self indulgent video.
you chose to do so in the manner you did. re: smarmy and manipulative.
it is okay. just admit it. my only issue is you won’t admit the tactic. the tactic itself i have no problem with.
what relevance is any of this to the original discussion?
i am full aware you self promote. i have no issues with you self promoting. i think you are smarmy and manipulative in the manner you do it.
this is what i pointed out.
you could easily have emailed jimmy and asked him to review your self indulgent video.
you chose to do so in the manner you did. re: smarmy and manipulative.
it is okay. just admit it. my only issue is you won’t admit the tactic. the tactic itself i have no problem with.
i leave work for my 3 hour commute home and i lose?
wow ken. so closed is your mind.
i leave work for my 3 hour commute home and i lose?
wow ken. so closed is your mind.
Tao, I think you made a good point when you said that basically it is your job to promote yourself. I also kind of think you risk rubbing people raw/the wrong way when you promote yourself on places like HTML Giant, where everybody already knows you. A lot of people look up to you around here and have issues with admitting so. At the same time, a lot of people are jealous of your success. I always read a lot of bitterness in every word Jereme Dean writes. That’s why I have a hard time reading anything he writes. He’s continually bitter and snippy snappy at anyone. He thinks this is like some kind of clubhouse where only certain people are allowed or something. It’s really fucking annoying. I think that probably half of the people who have a problem with you are jealous of you. I think the other half just wish you’d waste as much time as we do like talking about stupid internet shit or just hanging out and not promoting ourselves. The number of people here with things to sell is pretty high, but you don’t see them trying to sell it all that often. Why? Because this, an insider-industry-kinda blog, ain’t exactly the place to find fresh readers, and the sort of potential fresh readers you might find here are going to be burned out by all the gossip that might follow one of your posts.
It would be nice if you’d ever post on anything not related to you.
PS Thank you for the copy of with of The Book of Disquiet with your index in it. When your value has gone up approximately 50-90%, I will sell it on eBay because I know you are a firm believer in capitalism and will appreciate the irony of me selling a gift with your handwriting on eBay. I do really appreciate the gift though and look forward to reading the book.
Tao, I think you made a good point when you said that basically it is your job to promote yourself. I also kind of think you risk rubbing people raw/the wrong way when you promote yourself on places like HTML Giant, where everybody already knows you. A lot of people look up to you around here and have issues with admitting so. At the same time, a lot of people are jealous of your success. I always read a lot of bitterness in every word Jereme Dean writes. That’s why I have a hard time reading anything he writes. He’s continually bitter and snippy snappy at anyone. He thinks this is like some kind of clubhouse where only certain people are allowed or something. It’s really fucking annoying. I think that probably half of the people who have a problem with you are jealous of you. I think the other half just wish you’d waste as much time as we do like talking about stupid internet shit or just hanging out and not promoting ourselves. The number of people here with things to sell is pretty high, but you don’t see them trying to sell it all that often. Why? Because this, an insider-industry-kinda blog, ain’t exactly the place to find fresh readers, and the sort of potential fresh readers you might find here are going to be burned out by all the gossip that might follow one of your posts.
It would be nice if you’d ever post on anything not related to you.
PS Thank you for the copy of with of The Book of Disquiet with your index in it. When your value has gone up approximately 50-90%, I will sell it on eBay because I know you are a firm believer in capitalism and will appreciate the irony of me selling a gift with your handwriting on eBay. I do really appreciate the gift though and look forward to reading the book.
fuck all you people
fuck all you people
what was won?
oh and merry christmas!
what was won?
oh and merry christmas!
i agree with ryan
i agree with ryan
i just want to be nice and not pressure people and make funny jokes and not talk shit and work on things and be around people that don’t talk shit and are nice and make funny jokes and don’t pressure people and don’t complain
jereme, i was just being stupid saying ‘victory,’ i think if you interpret everything i do as a joke from now on something can change, funnier conversations will be made perhaps or something, a new phase can begin
i just want to be nice and not pressure people and make funny jokes and not talk shit and work on things and be around people that don’t talk shit and are nice and make funny jokes and don’t pressure people and don’t complain
jereme, i was just being stupid saying ‘victory,’ i think if you interpret everything i do as a joke from now on something can change, funnier conversations will be made perhaps or something, a new phase can begin
ryan:
that reminds me of the barber shop scene in coming to america
“fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you… who’s next?”
ryan:
that reminds me of the barber shop scene in coming to america
“fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you… who’s next?”
i hope the name ‘JEREME DEAN’ pops into PH Madores head when he is in Iraq.
That would be awesome.
i hope the name ‘JEREME DEAN’ pops into PH Madores head when he is in Iraq.
That would be awesome.
tao,
i was attacking you to create internet buzz and usurp your web hit stats for the glory of html giant.
i do believe you are selfish. i am okay with it.
i do believe i am a judgmental asshole. i am okay with it.
tao,
i was attacking you to create internet buzz and usurp your web hit stats for the glory of html giant.
i do believe you are selfish. i am okay with it.
i do believe i am a judgmental asshole. i am okay with it.
fyi ken,
i got tao to participate and post multiple times.
i alone am king.
fyi ken,
i got tao to participate and post multiple times.
i alone am king.
jimmy caused me to post something i think
you caused me to comment more times after that though, yes, good job
jimmy caused me to post something i think
you caused me to comment more times after that though, yes, good job
this was my goal from the start.
i can manipulate too.
this was my goal from the start.
i can manipulate too.
now you are less mysterious
i have shattered a small piece of your persona.
now you are less mysterious
i have shattered a small piece of your persona.
“i just want to be nice and not pressure people and make funny jokes and not talk shit and work on things and be around people that don’t talk shit and are nice and make funny jokes and don’t pressure people and don’t complain”
exactly
or: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u3fG2eJvCc
“i just want to be nice and not pressure people and make funny jokes and not talk shit and work on things and be around people that don’t talk shit and are nice and make funny jokes and don’t pressure people and don’t complain”
exactly
or: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u3fG2eJvCc
mike:
you missed his next sentence. that was the crucial one. how can you not take what came before it as a joke?
mike:
you missed his next sentence. that was the crucial one. how can you not take what came before it as a joke?
maybe he will be thinking of you when he kills someone. that would be great.
maybe he will be thinking of you when he kills someone. that would be great.
my chinchilla
my chinchilla
i said my thought process in my comment, in that i thought it would be a funny comment to make, i don’t understand why you don’t believe me, or if you do believe me and think that when i do things that i think are funny i am being smarmy and manipulative
i think html giant has .01 percent of the readership of nylon, or other publications, which if i wanted to reach the maximum number of readers, and promote myself the most, i would be focusing on, my main goal in making the comment was not to get html giant to write about me, it was because i thought jimmy or some other people might read the comment and think it was funny, in the same way i might publish a story on the internet or draw a hamster and put it on the internet because i feel some people and myself might think it is funny
i said my thought process in my comment, in that i thought it would be a funny comment to make, i don’t understand why you don’t believe me, or if you do believe me and think that when i do things that i think are funny i am being smarmy and manipulative
i think html giant has .01 percent of the readership of nylon, or other publications, which if i wanted to reach the maximum number of readers, and promote myself the most, i would be focusing on, my main goal in making the comment was not to get html giant to write about me, it was because i thought jimmy or some other people might read the comment and think it was funny, in the same way i might publish a story on the internet or draw a hamster and put it on the internet because i feel some people and myself might think it is funny
i said my thought process ‘of’ my comment
i said my thought process ‘of’ my comment
because when i see someone else making a joke somewhere and i feel that the joke is funny i have feelings of connection with the person and i like that
because when i see someone else making a joke somewhere and i feel that the joke is funny i have feelings of connection with the person and i like that
you’re welcome, if you decide to sell it on ebay i will think that is funny and will link to it and say some things about fernando pessoa
you’re welcome, if you decide to sell it on ebay i will think that is funny and will link to it and say some things about fernando pessoa
this is retarded
i quit this project
this is retarded
i quit this project
i would not email jimmy at this point in my life asking him to review the video because i feel that would put pressure on him to respond to my email in some way
if he did not want to respond to the email, or did not want to do what the email said, he would maybe respond to it anyway but in a way that made him feel bad and like he had been pressured to do something, which i do not want to do to him, because he probably has friends and family and his own writing or whatever else to focus on and not be distracted by
(the above two paragraphs are in response to your comment, not to my initial comment, because my main intention of my initial comment was to make a ‘funny comment’ not to get jimmy to review the promotional video)
i feel it is funny the amount of times i am commenting on this post
i would not email jimmy at this point in my life asking him to review the video because i feel that would put pressure on him to respond to my email in some way
if he did not want to respond to the email, or did not want to do what the email said, he would maybe respond to it anyway but in a way that made him feel bad and like he had been pressured to do something, which i do not want to do to him, because he probably has friends and family and his own writing or whatever else to focus on and not be distracted by
(the above two paragraphs are in response to your comment, not to my initial comment, because my main intention of my initial comment was to make a ‘funny comment’ not to get jimmy to review the promotional video)
i feel it is funny the amount of times i am commenting on this post
who the fuck is p.h. madore?
i think there are some grammatical or syntactical errors in some of my comments, i just tried to reread one of my comments and felt confused
who the fuck is p.h. madore?
i think there are some grammatical or syntactical errors in some of my comments, i just tried to reread one of my comments and felt confused
phmadore.wordpress.com
your tone is very hostile. now sit down, and tell me how you’re feeling. are you having family problems? issues with your girlfriend? it’s okay. life will be okay. trust me.
phmadore.wordpress.com
your tone is very hostile. now sit down, and tell me how you’re feeling. are you having family problems? issues with your girlfriend? it’s okay. life will be okay. trust me.
doesn’t ring a bell.
doesn’t ring a bell.
Who the fuck are you?
i love that you just said that
it’s oging to like open up this whole new thing about me again and secretly i’m very vein
Who the fuck are you?
i love that you just said that
it’s oging to like open up this whole new thing about me again and secretly i’m very vein
*vain
*vain
i thought jereme liked me at some point, jereme, did you like me at some point, was there some point in time in which you did not think i was smarmy or manipulative, i feel like there was, i remember you commenting on my blog and we emailing each other a few times and things like that
i thought jereme liked me at some point, jereme, did you like me at some point, was there some point in time in which you did not think i was smarmy or manipulative, i feel like there was, i remember you commenting on my blog and we emailing each other a few times and things like that
jereme i drew the header on my blog onto paper and am going to frame it maybe and sell it on ebay if i still think it is a funny thing to do one or two weeks from now, the header is drawn, do you have any thoughts about this
jereme i drew the header on my blog onto paper and am going to frame it maybe and sell it on ebay if i still think it is a funny thing to do one or two weeks from now, the header is drawn, do you have any thoughts about this
i have commented so many times, i feel like i should keep commenting
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i have commented so many times, i feel like i should keep commenting
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
i want to destroy this blog
*guiness
*laziness
*guiness
*laziness
oh, p.h.
don’t be a smart ass to a defenseless young girl
oh, p.h.
don’t be a smart ass to a defenseless young girl
I want to start over and only publish on blogs or with friends. I want to lose all aspirations. I want to stop thinking of myself as someone with potential. I want a different role model from birth who will not always be doing things so I won’t feel like I should always being doing things ad infinitum. I want to feel at home somewhere. I want to make you care.
I want to start over and only publish on blogs or with friends. I want to lose all aspirations. I want to stop thinking of myself as someone with potential. I want a different role model from birth who will not always be doing things so I won’t feel like I should always being doing things ad infinitum. I want to feel at home somewhere. I want to make you care.
don’t tell me what to do
GENAMOBWISHGIANT
don’t tell me what to do
GENAMOBWISHGIANT
while you’re in iraq, you should visit syria and say hello to my relatives.
ph scale matador.
while you’re in iraq, you should visit syria and say hello to my relatives.
ph scale matador.
no, dude, my tone is very what’s her name
my tone is very goddammit what is her name
usually i know her name without trying to remember it
my tone is very okay i will get the book and look and then tell you what my tone is very
wtf that would require waking the whole house up
okay the book has catherine lacey and it has ellen kennedy
therefore it also has
wtf dude
i sent her things in the mail
she sent me things in the mail
and her name is well whatever
i can even remember the name of the guy who she made the comment to
originally she said “you’re retarded, i quit this project” to brandon gorrell
i found this hilarious
it’s funny how the brain works sometimes
it starts with a c
oh i could search the gmail
i’m having way more fun thinking out-loud sort of right here though
jerkethics.com
CHELSEA MARTIN
ha, i got it without even leaving the couch
i so rock right now
the cat agrees
i didn’t know we had a cat
now we have a cat
i’ve not been here in so long
your tone was way more hostile, frickin gena, trust this
and i thought you quit this project?
no, dude, my tone is very what’s her name
my tone is very goddammit what is her name
usually i know her name without trying to remember it
my tone is very okay i will get the book and look and then tell you what my tone is very
wtf that would require waking the whole house up
okay the book has catherine lacey and it has ellen kennedy
therefore it also has
wtf dude
i sent her things in the mail
she sent me things in the mail
and her name is well whatever
i can even remember the name of the guy who she made the comment to
originally she said “you’re retarded, i quit this project” to brandon gorrell
i found this hilarious
it’s funny how the brain works sometimes
it starts with a c
oh i could search the gmail
i’m having way more fun thinking out-loud sort of right here though
jerkethics.com
CHELSEA MARTIN
ha, i got it without even leaving the couch
i so rock right now
the cat agrees
i didn’t know we had a cat
now we have a cat
i’ve not been here in so long
your tone was way more hostile, frickin gena, trust this
and i thought you quit this project?
i feel like everyone on this blog should stop being an asshole to one another. that’s all this site ever fucking does.
i feel like everyone on this blog should stop being an asshole to one another. that’s all this site ever fucking does.
it’s a thing i say from time to time, see above where i stole it from
i like randomly saying that i quit this project even when there is no project to quit
one time brandon gorell was talking about paper sizes for this is stupid i love you, and he said that they were giong to use 8×14–she flipped out and yelled at him and i just found it so funny in a geeky way, because it was so understandable, so from time to time, in lieu of that and my obsession with her youtube video in which she puts a ton of condoms onto her feet as boots, i occasionally, especially around here, say that x is retarded, i quit this project
so again
you’re retarded
i quit this project
it’s a thing i say from time to time, see above where i stole it from
i like randomly saying that i quit this project even when there is no project to quit
one time brandon gorell was talking about paper sizes for this is stupid i love you, and he said that they were giong to use 8×14–she flipped out and yelled at him and i just found it so funny in a geeky way, because it was so understandable, so from time to time, in lieu of that and my obsession with her youtube video in which she puts a ton of condoms onto her feet as boots, i occasionally, especially around here, say that x is retarded, i quit this project
so again
you’re retarded
i quit this project
wow. did you just call a 17-year-old girl retarded?
wow. did you just call a 17-year-old girl retarded?
did you just take it seriously?
everything is retarded
i seriously quit this project
thank you and good night
i’m snickering quite hard right now
did you just take it seriously?
everything is retarded
i seriously quit this project
thank you and good night
i’m snickering quite hard right now
you are trying very hard to affect me. i can tell by your little unnecessary comments. that’s really bad that you would try to hurt a girl who isn’t even out of high school yet. i’m sorry you feel the need to hurt people who are younger and weaker than you.
you are trying very hard to affect me. i can tell by your little unnecessary comments. that’s really bad that you would try to hurt a girl who isn’t even out of high school yet. i’m sorry you feel the need to hurt people who are younger and weaker than you.
i think you are obsessed with chelsea. you have mentioned her many times in your comments tonight. is that why you feel angry towards people? because you like chelsea and she doesn’t even know you exist? awww. unrequited love hurts. :(
i think you are obsessed with chelsea. you have mentioned her many times in your comments tonight. is that why you feel angry towards people? because you like chelsea and she doesn’t even know you exist? awww. unrequited love hurts. :(
tao’s initial comment to jimmy was funny
many of tao’s subsequent comments were funny
i especially like this one:
“i have commented so many times, i feel like i should keep commenting”
i’ll explain why that is funny:
tao felt a slight insecurity about commenting excessively on this post and then wanted to combat that slight insecurity by bringing attention to it and then stating a concept of future action that would ‘take it further’ maybe even ‘over the edge’
but the funniest part is that tao didn’t comment any more after he said that
also, if we remove the vowels from tao’s name we get – t ln
if we remove the consonants, we get – ao i
tao’s initial comment to jimmy was funny
many of tao’s subsequent comments were funny
i especially like this one:
“i have commented so many times, i feel like i should keep commenting”
i’ll explain why that is funny:
tao felt a slight insecurity about commenting excessively on this post and then wanted to combat that slight insecurity by bringing attention to it and then stating a concept of future action that would ‘take it further’ maybe even ‘over the edge’
but the funniest part is that tao didn’t comment any more after he said that
also, if we remove the vowels from tao’s name we get – t ln
if we remove the consonants, we get – ao i
luv u babe
luv u babe
jereme dean are you black dude
jereme dean are you black dude
haha “dipset” links to cnn.com – that is funny
haha “dipset” links to cnn.com – that is funny
tao,
i think you do a good job of seeming sincere at first. it does not matter if i like you or not like you. i liked your older writing. i think feeling ’emotions’ for ellen gave your writing a good quality. i don’t know.
your writing is becoming more ‘serious’ to me.
regardless i do not dislike or like you. i do not know you.
my main motivation here was to be the ‘devil’s advocate’. that duder guy made a comment about this site being ‘tao lin giant’ and jimmy was quick to dismiss him. 4 out of 9 posts have mentioned you (5 if you count my mean monday post but i did not name you explicitly).
the guy had a point. i thought ‘i am going to vocalize my observations about tao lin and see if i can cause controversy and web statistic rise’.
i think i did.
sometimes i word my observations in a mean way to be a bigger asshole.
earlier i thought ‘it would be awesome if “JEREME DEAN” popped into PH Madore’s head right before he got blown up by an IED’. i thought that might be too mean so i changed it to ‘it would be awesome if “JEREME DEAN” popped into PH Madore’s head while in Iraq’
i did not see any reason to be controversial with him. most people only know his name because he is a tao lin stalker.
I think it is funny he picked on Gena instead of arguing with me. I feel sorry for the women of iraq. Hopefully he will behave.
only wanting to hang out with a certain type of people is kind of mean. you are alienating people not fitting your blanket ‘profile’.
you are just as mean as i am but do it in a sneaky type of way.
i understand. you have to remain political to obtain literary book glory.
i wil buy you a soy drink or a beer or something if we ever meet.
tao,
i think you do a good job of seeming sincere at first. it does not matter if i like you or not like you. i liked your older writing. i think feeling ’emotions’ for ellen gave your writing a good quality. i don’t know.
your writing is becoming more ‘serious’ to me.
regardless i do not dislike or like you. i do not know you.
my main motivation here was to be the ‘devil’s advocate’. that duder guy made a comment about this site being ‘tao lin giant’ and jimmy was quick to dismiss him. 4 out of 9 posts have mentioned you (5 if you count my mean monday post but i did not name you explicitly).
the guy had a point. i thought ‘i am going to vocalize my observations about tao lin and see if i can cause controversy and web statistic rise’.
i think i did.
sometimes i word my observations in a mean way to be a bigger asshole.
earlier i thought ‘it would be awesome if “JEREME DEAN” popped into PH Madore’s head right before he got blown up by an IED’. i thought that might be too mean so i changed it to ‘it would be awesome if “JEREME DEAN” popped into PH Madore’s head while in Iraq’
i did not see any reason to be controversial with him. most people only know his name because he is a tao lin stalker.
I think it is funny he picked on Gena instead of arguing with me. I feel sorry for the women of iraq. Hopefully he will behave.
only wanting to hang out with a certain type of people is kind of mean. you are alienating people not fitting your blanket ‘profile’.
you are just as mean as i am but do it in a sneaky type of way.
i understand. you have to remain political to obtain literary book glory.
i wil buy you a soy drink or a beer or something if we ever meet.
i am sure some person will squander there money on it.
i wish you luck.
i am sure some person will squander there money on it.
i wish you luck.
dipset,
yes.
thank you for the racist remark.
dipset,
yes.
thank you for the racist remark.
explaining why things are funny ruins the funny.
explaining why things are funny ruins the funny.
*their
one of these days i will actually proof read.
*their
one of these days i will actually proof read.
that is funny, i didnt read that comment before
that is funny, i didnt read that comment before
i love you gena.
now you are free to respond. oh my god you pedaphile, you love a 17 yr old girl.
and then i will say, i have loved them much much younger
and you will say oh my god i hate you you fucking perverted fuck
and i will say im just fucking around
and you will tell me to fuck off.
i love you.
i love you gena.
now you are free to respond. oh my god you pedaphile, you love a 17 yr old girl.
and then i will say, i have loved them much much younger
and you will say oh my god i hate you you fucking perverted fuck
and i will say im just fucking around
and you will tell me to fuck off.
i love you.
i do not view you as a pedophile. i think you are funny. i am really not a mean person. htmlgiant brainwashed me. hahaha.
i do not view you as a pedophile. i think you are funny. i am really not a mean person. htmlgiant brainwashed me. hahaha.
“i’ll explain why that is funny:
tao felt a slight insecurity about commenting excessively on this post and then wanted to combat that slight insecurity by bringing attention to it and then stating a concept of future action that would ‘take it further’ maybe even ‘over the edge’”
hahahahhahahha
thats hilarious
“i’ll explain why that is funny:
tao felt a slight insecurity about commenting excessively on this post and then wanted to combat that slight insecurity by bringing attention to it and then stating a concept of future action that would ‘take it further’ maybe even ‘over the edge’”
hahahahhahahha
thats hilarious
that girl is so self-absorbed and full of herself its outragoepous
that girl is so self-absorbed and full of herself its outragoepous
chelsea knows i exist
ask her
yes tho
that mayu be my whole problem
what a tard ypou are
fucking whats your name
fucking gena mowhana
chelsea knows i exist
ask her
yes tho
that mayu be my whole problem
what a tard ypou are
fucking whats your name
fucking gena mowhana
aww look madore is drunk and picking on girls again.
aww look madore is drunk and picking on girls again.