June 15th, 2010 / 12:54 pm
Mean & Power Quote

Charming, but explain the wrist watch

“Time is not a thing, thus nothing which is, and yet it remains constant in its passing away without being something temporal like the beings in time.

— Martin Heidegger, Being and Time (1927)

I’ve been accused of finding photos which incriminate authors, which I’ll gladly admit to, but the above photo/quote mash-up illustrates my skepticism towards philosophy, especially ontological mathy ones. Dude needs to relax and have some weisse bohnensuppe (German bean soup). It’s awesome ripping apart the palpable world on page, but Heidegger needs time just like everyone else — when his appointment with his proctologist is, never mind that they’ll only find beans and thyme.

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21 Comments

  1. Shane Anderson

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Heidegger only saying that time is not within time and that it doesn’t have the same ontological status as beings (people? (who are in time))? (Hard to tell from such a small quote and it’s been way too long since I’ve studied him.) If so, then the wristwatch isn’t such a big deal, right? This reminds me of this great anecdote about this philosopher whose main claim to fame was dissing on beliefs. At a conference where he delivered a paper, someone asked him whether he believed what he wrote was true and he just stood there, silent, waiting for the next question.

      Anywho, I’d say Heide was probably more of a Spargelcremesuppe kind of guy.

  2. damon

      I like the idea of Heidegger a lot more than I like the experience of reading the guy. I do have to say though, that it changed the way I encounter him if I think of his project being essentially a theological one. I mean changed it for the better.

      Also, I find Heidegger mathy, just purposefully convoluted. That can be blamed on Kant and Hegel, and a tradition of what it means to “do” philosophy in the west.

      this guy laughing beside me sounds just like chipmunk.

  3. damon

      I *don’t* find Heidegger mathy…

  4. jereme

      “To philosophize is to learn to die”

      “I searched for great human beings; I always found only the apes of their ideals.”

      “and yes a grave for a human is a skull.”

  5. Matt

      Heidegger is wonderful (Introduction to Metaphysics, I highly recommend).

      And yeah, he’s not saying time doesn’t exist?

  6. Pemulis

      Same goes for the performativity of gender/biological-sex-is-bogus crowd. Sooner or later, those guys will have to boink another dude or STFU about the fluidity of this and that or the big sexist lie we call biology.

      Also, fundamentalists shouldn’t use iPods or drive cars. Products of science, products of the devil!

  7. Jak Cardini

      I mean, all he is saying in that quote is that time does not posses the same qualities of “a thing”, that it is temporal, in that it is constantly “slipping away from us” and yet never goes away.

      So, why is it dumb to where a watch?

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  9. Shane Anderson

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Heidegger only saying that time is not within time and that it doesn’t have the same ontological status as beings (people? (who are in time))? (Hard to tell from such a small quote and it’s been way too long since I’ve studied him.) If so, then the wristwatch isn’t such a big deal, right? This reminds me of this great anecdote about this philosopher whose main claim to fame was dissing on beliefs. At a conference where he delivered a paper, someone asked him whether he believed what he wrote was true and he just stood there, silent, waiting for the next question.

      Anywho, I’d say Heide was probably more of a Spargelcremesuppe kind of guy.

  10. damon

      I like the idea of Heidegger a lot more than I like the experience of reading the guy. I do have to say though, that it changed the way I encounter him if I think of his project being essentially a theological one. I mean changed it for the better.

      Also, I find Heidegger mathy, just purposefully convoluted. That can be blamed on Kant and Hegel, and a tradition of what it means to “do” philosophy in the west.

      this guy laughing beside me sounds just like chipmunk.

  11. damon

      I *don’t* find Heidegger mathy…

  12. jereme

      “To philosophize is to learn to die”

      “I searched for great human beings; I always found only the apes of their ideals.”

      “and yes a grave for a human is a skull.”

  13. Matt

      Heidegger is wonderful (Introduction to Metaphysics, I highly recommend).

      And yeah, he’s not saying time doesn’t exist?

  14. Ed

      Heidegger is the opposite of mathy. Quine is mathy. Frege, Russell. Early Wittgenstein. There are so many philosophers deeply influenced by the development of mathematical logic in the late 19th/early 20th century. I don’t think Heidegger is one of them, but I’m certainly no expert. Anyway, that’s what I take to mean ‘mathy’, though people might have a different conception. I know that Heidegger studied physics or something, but I don’t know if any of that rubbed off in his work too much…

  15. Pemulis

      Same goes for the performativity of gender/biological-sex-is-bogus crowd. Sooner or later, those guys will have to boink another dude or STFU about the fluidity of this and that or the big sexist lie we call biology.

      Also, fundamentalists shouldn’t use iPods or drive cars. Products of science, products of the devil!

  16. Hank

      Even Heidegger is so mundane.

  17. Andrew Shaffer

      Charming!

  18. Jak Cardini

      I mean, all he is saying in that quote is that time does not posses the same qualities of “a thing”, that it is temporal, in that it is constantly “slipping away from us” and yet never goes away.

      So, why is it dumb to where a watch?

  19. Ed

      Heidegger is the opposite of mathy. Quine is mathy. Frege, Russell. Early Wittgenstein. There are so many philosophers deeply influenced by the development of mathematical logic in the late 19th/early 20th century. I don’t think Heidegger is one of them, but I’m certainly no expert. Anyway, that’s what I take to mean ‘mathy’, though people might have a different conception. I know that Heidegger studied physics or something, but I don’t know if any of that rubbed off in his work too much…

  20. Hank

      Even Heidegger is so mundane.

  21. Andrew Shaffer

      Charming!