I self-hyphenated at five. My mom had hers hyphenated for a little while after her divorce, and I asked her why people do that, and then after she told me, I was like, I want your last name in my last name, Mommy, and have been using it ever since. I’ve never had my birth certificate changed (Jones was originally middle name), but my social and all other documents are hyphenated.
But I think the real answer to your question is their parents probably hyphenated their kids’ names. I feel like it’s kinda an old movement though, I don’t think people do it as much anymore. For various reasons, if somebody is genuinely uncomfortable w/ the patriarchal naming thing, hyphenation doesn’t really hold up as an alternative. (They’re ultimately all mens’ last names, and what’s the hyphenated kid gonna name their own kids — give them a quadruple last name?…etc….)
Goodness – did this really devolve into a discussion about hyphenated last names? Did no one notice that the photo of the female writer was used twice, with different names? Furthermore – (I can’t believe I am doing this) the nitro was that editors conceded to not having taste, and I don;t know where that is defined as being “retarded.” None of the “Quotes” was even from an editor – supposedly, they are all from rejected writers. I do think the quote by Mike Totino is classic – I can see an editor telling a writer to remove all adverbs, and being very, terribly, horribly, arrogantly wrong.
I’m not actually certain. It isn’t out of the ordinary for people over here to have double-barrelled names as a way of preserving their mother’s surname, I think. (Presumably it’s something decided at marriage.) It’s also true, however, that it tends to occur in the upper-middle and upper classes. The two may be linked — perhaps in instances where the maiden name has some sort of cachet, I suppose. I think it might also be an imitation of higher-class tendencies of the past.
(EDIT: Just saw that this has already been answered below. W’evs.)
If one of two people getting married does not want to surrender her name upon marriage, you adopt both names. The order, of course, is up to you.
(EDIT: Hadn’t realized until I posted this that Stephen already cleared this up, below. [embarrassment] Also: Not to gloss over Donald’s point…. I don’t believe it’s class-restrictive but some connection to class is an interesting thought that I hadn’t considered)
Don’t you have to have your name changed legally? I mean, you can’t get a driver’s license or state ID with a different name than what’s on your birth certificate, and you can’t get a bank account with a different name than what’s on your license or ID, and you can’t rent an apartment with a different name than what’s on your license or ID… .
Shit varies a little state by state, but generally speaking, you can use whatever the fuck name you want so long as there’s no intent to fraud. You do need documents to get other documents, I think it just varies which and where.
poets ben doyle and sandra miller changed their name to doller when they got married cause of the combo of their last names. dont know how i remember that, but yeah.
My mom and I had an argument when I was in HS where I was like, “I’ll change my name to Danason (Dana’s son), and then it’ll be a real matriarchy,” and she was like, “It’s not a matriarchy if I don’t approve and I DON’T.” People on the left are hilarious.
Standard as in The Onion has been using the same six photos for their “man on the street” pieces since the paper was only available on the streets of Madison, Wisconsin.
Oh, whoops. Names. I think was answering the “Hey, you used the same photo twice question.”
When I got married we were told that my wife could change her last name without paying the filing fee for a name change. Then they said that I could also change my name for free. Apparently getting married is grounds for everyone to change their names for free. Which is kind of cool, if, like me, you’ve been using something other than your legal name for the last eight years.
An editor has taste toward what they publish, correct?
If others view that publication/editor as not having taste because they dislike what they publish, is this not insane?
Okay, maybe it is the writer/reader enjoys similar published material but not what the editor/magazine tends to publish in the same vein as their tastes…. does this matter?
Oh, maybe it is more a commentary on the attitudes of rejected writers in regards to the common scenario of rejected writers disliking what the editor/magazine publishes, but still submitting to them because of the jerkjob stigma attached to being published in this publication. But what if on the off-chance you are accepted by tasteless editor/magazine — does one’s argument change and the editor/magazine have good taste because they have “accepted” you, or are they tasteless and now your work actually sucks because you have unknowingly acclimated due to your obsessive hate-thought…
Using two surnames is common in Latin America. It is a tradition from Spain and still used their. A name may look like this: Tomas Martinez y Barreras. The mother’s name goes first.
I like how Ed is black but has a Nazi sounding name.
Also, how the fuck does a man get a hyphenated last name? Can someone explain this to me (not being facetious)?
Byron must be British. Very common there, for males. Should have told n+1 in his intro letter. Would have boosted chances.
Leave it to the limeys. But WHY do they have hyphenated names?
if your mom keeps her maiden name and your parents want to give you both of their names, they can give you a hyphenated last name
Oh I guess that makes sense. I didn’t know the hyphenated last name was passed down to children. Interesting.
I self-hyphenated at five. My mom had hers hyphenated for a little while after her divorce, and I asked her why people do that, and then after she told me, I was like, I want your last name in my last name, Mommy, and have been using it ever since. I’ve never had my birth certificate changed (Jones was originally middle name), but my social and all other documents are hyphenated.
But I think the real answer to your question is their parents probably hyphenated their kids’ names. I feel like it’s kinda an old movement though, I don’t think people do it as much anymore. For various reasons, if somebody is genuinely uncomfortable w/ the patriarchal naming thing, hyphenation doesn’t really hold up as an alternative. (They’re ultimately all mens’ last names, and what’s the hyphenated kid gonna name their own kids — give them a quadruple last name?…etc….)
I think some people also do the everybody-is-hyphenated thing, parents and kids included.
If his mother didn’t take his father’s name, they might have given him both and hyphenated it. Happens.
Goodness – did this really devolve into a discussion about hyphenated last names? Did no one notice that the photo of the female writer was used twice, with different names? Furthermore – (I can’t believe I am doing this) the nitro was that editors conceded to not having taste, and I don;t know where that is defined as being “retarded.” None of the “Quotes” was even from an editor – supposedly, they are all from rejected writers. I do think the quote by Mike Totino is classic – I can see an editor telling a writer to remove all adverbs, and being very, terribly, horribly, arrogantly wrong.
“Self-hyphenated.” Excellent.
are you reality-checking chen jokes?
i’m going to feed you pudding one day.
jesus. the people’s names are screenshots from the actual onion website. those are their ‘standard’ names.
Tim,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I like that you self-hyphenated.
I wasn’t thinking about children, more of men who adopt a spousal surname which seems fucking stupid to me.
Making women change their name after marriage is pretty fucking stupid too.
Thought the double pic was obvious and didn’t feel like bringing it up.
I vocalized what I wanted to vocalize. I don’t see an issue?
I am not a child of middle america. I have no clue what it’s like to have parents.
Genuine question. I’d rather hear organic answers than read what wikipedia sugar glistens.
I’m fond of pistachio.
TIM HORVATH, YOU ARE MY 100th LIKE!!!
Go fuck yourself.
I’m not actually certain. It isn’t out of the ordinary for people over here to have double-barrelled names as a way of preserving their mother’s surname, I think. (Presumably it’s something decided at marriage.) It’s also true, however, that it tends to occur in the upper-middle and upper classes. The two may be linked — perhaps in instances where the maiden name has some sort of cachet, I suppose. I think it might also be an imitation of higher-class tendencies of the past.
(EDIT: Just saw that this has already been answered below. W’evs.)
Don’t know if this is on the reg, but a friend and his new wife each added the other’s name, hyphenated. Flipped a coin to pick the order.
Yeah, maybe he should watch the Sound of Music Again. Nazis?
Go fuck yourself.
If one of two people getting married does not want to surrender her name upon marriage, you adopt both names. The order, of course, is up to you.
(EDIT: Hadn’t realized until I posted this that Stephen already cleared this up, below. [embarrassment] Also: Not to gloss over Donald’s point…. I don’t believe it’s class-restrictive but some connection to class is an interesting thought that I hadn’t considered)
Don’t you have to have your name changed legally? I mean, you can’t get a driver’s license or state ID with a different name than what’s on your birth certificate, and you can’t get a bank account with a different name than what’s on your license or ID, and you can’t rent an apartment with a different name than what’s on your license or ID… .
¿Can you?
At the risk of sounding stupid, what makes a name a standard? [confused]
Actually, I hadn’t analyzed the class aspect. I suspect you are right.
Shit varies a little state by state, but generally speaking, you can use whatever the fuck name you want so long as there’s no intent to fraud. You do need documents to get other documents, I think it just varies which and where.
standard as in jimmy didn’t make it up, i think?
poets ben doyle and sandra miller changed their name to doller when they got married cause of the combo of their last names. dont know how i remember that, but yeah.
My mom and I had an argument when I was in HS where I was like, “I’ll change my name to Danason (Dana’s son), and then it’ll be a real matriarchy,” and she was like, “It’s not a matriarchy if I don’t approve and I DON’T.” People on the left are hilarious.
“class meme”
Standard as in The Onion has been using the same six photos for their “man on the street” pieces since the paper was only available on the streets of Madison, Wisconsin.
Oh, whoops. Names. I think was answering the “Hey, you used the same photo twice question.”
Also, this was really funny, Jimmy.
I love me some Jimmy Chen backlash.
Also personification is impossible, people. The sun doesn’t even have a face.
bullshit, i’ve seen it
When I got married we were told that my wife could change her last name without paying the filing fee for a name change. Then they said that I could also change my name for free. Apparently getting married is grounds for everyone to change their names for free. Which is kind of cool, if, like me, you’ve been using something other than your legal name for the last eight years.
Five is pretty young to dash to such a decision, Tim.
p-o-l-y-h-y-p-h-e-n-a-t-e-d
dashing through the s-n-o-w
An editor has taste toward what they publish, correct?
If others view that publication/editor as not having taste because they dislike what they publish, is this not insane?
Okay, maybe it is the writer/reader enjoys similar published material but not what the editor/magazine tends to publish in the same vein as their tastes…. does this matter?
Oh, maybe it is more a commentary on the attitudes of rejected writers in regards to the common scenario of rejected writers disliking what the editor/magazine publishes, but still submitting to them because of the jerkjob stigma attached to being published in this publication. But what if on the off-chance you are accepted by tasteless editor/magazine — does one’s argument change and the editor/magazine have good taste because they have “accepted” you, or are they tasteless and now your work actually sucks because you have unknowingly acclimated due to your obsessive hate-thought…
That women would be cute if wasn’t not cute.
“Tim DanasrogueYchromosome”
“Tim Telomeredifferentlyabled”
what is “wft”?
–fan w/ red pencil growing from left nostril
Using two surnames is common in Latin America. It is a tradition from Spain and still used their. A name may look like this: Tomas Martinez y Barreras. The mother’s name goes first.