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I promised myself I would not inflate this ridiculous situation, but Jereme’s comment really pissed me off. (Fuck off Jereme.) He is suggesting that I’m remaining reticent out of ‘publishing diplomacy,’ being that I have 4 pieces in TJ, and have established ‘friendship’ with Mark Baumer. And obviously, I’m friends with Blake and Justin and the rest of Htmlgiant. I’m not being a coward dickshit, I’m being (trying) civilized.
I will admit, I was put in a strange situation because a) I didn’t provoke this situation, b) mutual overlap of ‘interest’ cited above. Matt and Blake provoked this situation, and Justin and the loyal commenters inflamed it.
This is what I think:
Matt did two shitty things: 1) Out of nowhere he posts a passive aggresive comment basically calling Blake Butler untalented and suggesting that out of pettiness did not link TJ. 2) The shittiest thing, the shittiest thing of all, was he deleted Blake’s story, which is just tacky and small, and kind of stupid.
Blake did one shitty thing: Instead of just fucking linking TJ, he tried to publicly humiliate Matt with the ‘how to get linked post.’ This just inflamed the situation, to which Matt over-reacted by deleting Blake’s story.
Justin’s post about ‘unpublishing’ I actually really liked. It really made sense. When you delete a story due to personal matters, you implicate editorialship as being what it’s often accused of being: a favor-nepotist bank of who you like and who you don’t. The problem with Justin is he’s really smart, and his post seemed like an objective argument (which it ‘objectively’ was), but really Justin–weren’t you just backin’ up your buddy Blake? Isn’t it obvious everyone is/was on Blake’s side?
Mark’s email to Justin was not neccessary, and it was also not neccessary for Justin to post Mark’s email.
As for the comments–I get sad when I read them, because it’s so self-absorbed. It’s basically the same 6 people going on and on about nothing. Somebody attacks king Butler, and the troops go out for the kill. PH Madore, Matt, and Mark never had a fucking chance with all you fucking clever people.
And who wins? Christ, who cares. Everybody has acted like a little bitch. People are starting to shit-talk Htmlgiant, the same way they shit-talk gawker, McSwnys, N+1, or any solipsist ‘in-crowd’ that self propogates its own ingrown rhetoric. You know, I bet you for every comment that is left, there are 30 that aren’t–just people who stumbled upon the madness. And those people think: “Christ, what a bunch of self-absorbed assholes.” I really think they think that.
So, um, Matt: I like my 4 peices in TJ, and I try to always send you my ‘better’ shit. If you delete my stories, that’s okay. The internet is not real and I have a day-job.
Blake: I like being a contributing writer here, but if my sentiments are viewed as dissent, fire me.
Justin and Mark: Hi, thanks for playing.
Fuck you Jereme. Htmlgiant has become too important in your life. Your rhetoric is transparent, I know you just want attention.
pr, barry & co.: go outside, turn off your computer and just go outside and the sky is blue and there was a cloud or something and I will destroy this relationship today.
Tao always wins.
Jesus Christ you people, you forced me to write this.
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sex pooping
sex pooping
jimmy,
thank you for spelling my name correctly. i appreciate that. it always bothers me when people get mad at something i say and write my name incorrectly.
words are meaningless, actions are concrete
matt performed an action. my perception was that most did not feel outraged by the actions taken against blake. principals have been jeopardized. sometimes you need to stand up regardless of the consequences. most seemed to not want to do that. you in particular.
my comment was not directed solely at you. i am happy you finally expressed your views. that is all i wanted to begin with. to be honest this entire bullshit is partly your fault. being neutral is cowardly. i am slightly fucking with you right now.
you have moved a few ranks higher in my book. you finally stopped hiding behind your jokes and stood up for yourself. good job. i am not fucking with you now.
i am very transparent. this is how i am in real life too. my viewpoints are patent.
i don’t expect you to understand.
i like to think that blake is wyatt earp from the movie tombstone. The guy who wants to create a certain aesthetic but also benefit from it.
i feel that i am doc holiday. the self destructive guy people genuinely do not like. i can’t help myself. i am unable to change what i am.
like doc holiday i don’t have many friends. i am more than happy to shoot out with johnny ringo in the desert plains if it means i am helping wyatt whether he wants the help or not.
i am proud of you jimmy. no one forced you to do anything though. take responsibility for your actions.
okay i need to go to sleep. i have a long day tomorrow with html giant in my life.
look at me. look at me.
jimmy,
thank you for spelling my name correctly. i appreciate that. it always bothers me when people get mad at something i say and write my name incorrectly.
words are meaningless, actions are concrete
matt performed an action. my perception was that most did not feel outraged by the actions taken against blake. principals have been jeopardized. sometimes you need to stand up regardless of the consequences. most seemed to not want to do that. you in particular.
my comment was not directed solely at you. i am happy you finally expressed your views. that is all i wanted to begin with. to be honest this entire bullshit is partly your fault. being neutral is cowardly. i am slightly fucking with you right now.
you have moved a few ranks higher in my book. you finally stopped hiding behind your jokes and stood up for yourself. good job. i am not fucking with you now.
i am very transparent. this is how i am in real life too. my viewpoints are patent.
i don’t expect you to understand.
i like to think that blake is wyatt earp from the movie tombstone. The guy who wants to create a certain aesthetic but also benefit from it.
i feel that i am doc holiday. the self destructive guy people genuinely do not like. i can’t help myself. i am unable to change what i am.
like doc holiday i don’t have many friends. i am more than happy to shoot out with johnny ringo in the desert plains if it means i am helping wyatt whether he wants the help or not.
i am proud of you jimmy. no one forced you to do anything though. take responsibility for your actions.
okay i need to go to sleep. i have a long day tomorrow with html giant in my life.
look at me. look at me.
isn’t anybody going to review THIS FEELS LIKE NORMAL on here? now it is pathetic because i had to ask………
isn’t anybody going to review THIS FEELS LIKE NORMAL on here? now it is pathetic because i had to ask………
This is why we publish actual books. If I got pissed at Blake, I would have to tear out the pages where his story is from all of these books. Too lazy for that. Then Justin would probably get mad and aI would have to tear his our too. Then Eva, then who knows who? Print journals: you can’t delete them!
This is why we publish actual books. If I got pissed at Blake, I would have to tear out the pages where his story is from all of these books. Too lazy for that. Then Justin would probably get mad and aI would have to tear his our too. Then Eva, then who knows who? Print journals: you can’t delete them!
jimmy:
“People are starting to shit-talk Htmlgiant, the same way they shit-talk gawker, McSwnys, N+1,”
no disrespect to html, but their readership is 10,000 times what yours is. i would have used better examples. the idea that just because someone shit talks something doesnt mean they admire it or respect it or read it, is stupid. i shit talk eli manning. he can still win the fucking superbowl.
and also, i dont think that everyone defended blake. i said several times that i think thieves jargon is a great journal and i thought you guys were silly for calling their readership “dismal.” i said good things about both blake and matt. i respect both of them and what they do. we all have the right to act ridiculous sometimes, that doesnt mean it affects my opinion of what anyone does artistically.
also. i love you pr/
also. i will babble whenever i feel like it. are you another blog comment dictator?
jimmy:
“People are starting to shit-talk Htmlgiant, the same way they shit-talk gawker, McSwnys, N+1,”
no disrespect to html, but their readership is 10,000 times what yours is. i would have used better examples. the idea that just because someone shit talks something doesnt mean they admire it or respect it or read it, is stupid. i shit talk eli manning. he can still win the fucking superbowl.
and also, i dont think that everyone defended blake. i said several times that i think thieves jargon is a great journal and i thought you guys were silly for calling their readership “dismal.” i said good things about both blake and matt. i respect both of them and what they do. we all have the right to act ridiculous sometimes, that doesnt mean it affects my opinion of what anyone does artistically.
also. i love you pr/
also. i will babble whenever i feel like it. are you another blog comment dictator?
side note:
“any solipsist ‘in-crowd’ that self propogates its own ingrown rhetoric. You know, I bet you for every comment that is left, there are 30 that aren’t–just people who stumbled upon the madness. And those people think: “Christ, what a bunch of self-absorbed assholes.” I really think they think that.”
people have been saying that about you guys long before html was created. my question is why do you give a fuck? if its not true, fuck em.
side note:
“any solipsist ‘in-crowd’ that self propogates its own ingrown rhetoric. You know, I bet you for every comment that is left, there are 30 that aren’t–just people who stumbled upon the madness. And those people think: “Christ, what a bunch of self-absorbed assholes.” I really think they think that.”
people have been saying that about you guys long before html was created. my question is why do you give a fuck? if its not true, fuck em.
one more thing:
“go outside, turn off your computer and just go outside and the sky is blue and there was a cloud or something and I will destroy this relationship today.”
its michigan. its cold. theres snow. fuck going outside. sorry. not all of us live in frisco. where gay folks walk around drinking fucking lattes well into february.
you arent strong enough to destroy things.
one more thing:
“go outside, turn off your computer and just go outside and the sky is blue and there was a cloud or something and I will destroy this relationship today.”
its michigan. its cold. theres snow. fuck going outside. sorry. not all of us live in frisco. where gay folks walk around drinking fucking lattes well into february.
you arent strong enough to destroy things.
just ordered matt’s chapbook. its gonna be dyno-mite
hurry up and order. there cant be that many copies left.
just ordered matt’s chapbook. its gonna be dyno-mite
hurry up and order. there cant be that many copies left.
It’s a good thing when you guys argue in public. They do the same shit on more ‘professional’ blogs, but no one ever sees it.
I’m going to let my self-deprecating misogynistic self flow freely here and say that we should all handle shit the overly-aggressive man-jock way, get in a fist fight and get the conflict out of the way. We can all have a beer after we’re done bleeding.
It’s a good thing when you guys argue in public. They do the same shit on more ‘professional’ blogs, but no one ever sees it.
I’m going to let my self-deprecating misogynistic self flow freely here and say that we should all handle shit the overly-aggressive man-jock way, get in a fist fight and get the conflict out of the way. We can all have a beer after we’re done bleeding.
html battle royal
html battle royal
Dear Blake and Barry: Thanks for mentioning Matt’s chapbook in your comments.
Dear Jimmy: Hi. (I’m batting my eyelashes atcha.)
Dear Blake and Barry: Thanks for mentioning Matt’s chapbook in your comments.
Dear Jimmy: Hi. (I’m batting my eyelashes atcha.)
i just want to cuddle
i just want to cuddle
jereme:
im doing all this for you, but im afraid i cant figure you out. one minute you wanna fight people, then gene does, so i go along with it, now you wanna cuddle. you’re quite the sophisticate.
im giving an exam today. im getting a ridiculous amount of money to post comments on html giant. i should be hung
jereme:
im doing all this for you, but im afraid i cant figure you out. one minute you wanna fight people, then gene does, so i go along with it, now you wanna cuddle. you’re quite the sophisticate.
im giving an exam today. im getting a ridiculous amount of money to post comments on html giant. i should be hung
barry,
i do not want to cuddle. i set up the bad boy persona to attract the naughty girls.
but i also do not want to alienate the meek girls. so i say i want to cuddle.
it is a shotgun approach. eventually i will have sex with all vagina connected to the internet.
i am excited for me.
“you aren’t strong enough to destroy things” made me high five the air. best word combination of the week.
barry,
i do not want to cuddle. i set up the bad boy persona to attract the naughty girls.
but i also do not want to alienate the meek girls. so i say i want to cuddle.
it is a shotgun approach. eventually i will have sex with all vagina connected to the internet.
i am excited for me.
“you aren’t strong enough to destroy things” made me high five the air. best word combination of the week.
nude cuddling
nude cuddling
peter,
i like your style
peter,
i like your style
jereme:
i did a “right on” fist pump after hearing about your high five.
good luck taming internet vag. may the force be with you.
jereme:
i did a “right on” fist pump after hearing about your high five.
good luck taming internet vag. may the force be with you.
yeah
yeah
don’t call it frisco
don’t call it frisco
michigan is cold as ass. i am there too
michigan is cold as ass. i am there too
john:
“don’t call it frisco”
what does that mean? are there consequences if i dont call it something else?
frisco
frisco
frisco
peter:
where you at in mich?
john:
“don’t call it frisco”
what does that mean? are there consequences if i dont call it something else?
frisco
frisco
frisco
peter:
where you at in mich?
“if it’s not true then fuck em”
“if it’s not true then fuck em”
“if it’s not true then have intimate sexual relations with em”
“if it’s not true then insert your male parts forcibly into their female parts and/or their male out-door parts”
“if it’s not true then take your dingbat hoohoo and bologna it into their wazoohoo shaft until their hohos become like statuesque rods… em.”
“if it’s not true then have intimate sexual relations with em”
“if it’s not true then insert your male parts forcibly into their female parts and/or their male out-door parts”
“if it’s not true then take your dingbat hoohoo and bologna it into their wazoohoo shaft until their hohos become like statuesque rods… em.”
hi barry,
“frisco” is like “the big apple” or “chi-town” or “bean town”
there’s a laundry mat in “The City” called Don’t Call It Frisco…
teenagers from the North Bay who still listen to Hyphy call SF “Frisco”
just saying…
oh and, congrats Blake B., your publisher just sent us the cover scan and book detail for Ever…looks hot.
xo
hi barry,
“frisco” is like “the big apple” or “chi-town” or “bean town”
there’s a laundry mat in “The City” called Don’t Call It Frisco…
teenagers from the North Bay who still listen to Hyphy call SF “Frisco”
just saying…
oh and, congrats Blake B., your publisher just sent us the cover scan and book detail for Ever…looks hot.
xo
me and the kids from north bay must not be as cool as the san francisco sophisticates. maybe i should start snubbing people from oakland then i’ll be cool
me and the kids from north bay must not be as cool as the san francisco sophisticates. maybe i should start snubbing people from oakland then i’ll be cool
no way, the Easy Bay is the best. Oakland no snub. however, feel free to snub Berkeley.
92510!
no way, the Easy Bay is the best. Oakland no snub. however, feel free to snub Berkeley.
92510!
the lovely HOLLAND, MI. home of the tulip festival.
you?
the lovely HOLLAND, MI. home of the tulip festival.
you?
yeah, i know holland. hell im all over the place.
im in blissfield right now. right on the ohio border.
yeah, i know holland. hell im all over the place.
im in blissfield right now. right on the ohio border.
ah over by ohio. I don’t think I’ve heard of blissfield. Holland is ridiculous.
ah over by ohio. I don’t think I’ve heard of blissfield. Holland is ridiculous.
i meant East Bay.
where i’m from.
i meant East Bay.
where i’m from.
thanks john :)
thanks john :)
“we should all handle shit the overly-aggressive man-jock way, get in a fist fight and get the conflict out of the way. We can all have a beer after we’re done bleeding.”
yes.
“we should all handle shit the overly-aggressive man-jock way, get in a fist fight and get the conflict out of the way. We can all have a beer after we’re done bleeding.”
yes.
i like this post. jimmy chen is smart and reasonable.
i like this post. jimmy chen is smart and reasonable.