Massive People
MASSIVE PEOPLE (4): Aaron Burch
I first met Aaron Burch at AWP two years ago. I had read some issues of Hobart before and really liked the stuff he’d published, so it made sense to me that I should talk to him. I anxiously introduced myself to him at the Hobart table and babbled to him, asked him many questions about the journal, and felt very sweaty the whole time, especially after I ran out of things to say. I’m glad that he did not punch me in the mouth.
Not that he would have, for Aaron Burch is a kind and gentle human. He grows his beard and keeps it tidy. He smokes cigars and drinks whiskey. He publishes the fine literary periodical Hobart, and he administers the web version as well as the mini-books division.
Aaron Burch lives up north somewhere.
Aaron Burch also does some of his own writing. He is a fine fine writer. His work can be read both online and in print at various publications: Eyeshot, Pindeldyboz, Storyglossia, Phoebe, elimae, MonkeyBicycle, etc. He’s currently reading/writing in the MFA program at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where he also teaches composition.
I emailed him some questions when I was drunk. They seem ‘aggressive’ now that I’m looking at them again, so I have edited out some of the aggressiveness.
1. Lots of people shit on the MFA. You’ve decided to go for it at UIUC. Why? Tell us some pros and cons you’ve noticed about the program, if you can.
Well, I haven’t been here long, so I don’t know that I can do much ruminating yet. The main reason why I came back to school might have just been curiosity – what all I could learn in a program, how it works, etc. I was hoping to just spend a couple years writing, with feedback and guidance, and try to use that to the best of my ability, I guess. I mean, I think it is easy to shit on the MFA. But its easy to shit on anything. Some of my fave writers that I’ve published in Hobart though, some people who I think are writing some of the most original stuff (Catherine Zeidler, Lee Klein (who was also just interviewed here, looks like, and, like Blake, my first pub was on Eyeshot. Exciting!)), all went through an MFA program themselves, so I kept reminding myself of you guys, keeping you in mind, whenever I started to believe all the bitching about everybody writing the same, blah blah blah. As for actual pros and cons… ask me again in a couple of years?
2. Dan Wickett recently posted photos of you pre-teaching and post-teaching. You seem to clean up well. How have you liked working in a classroom? What are you teaching? Is it going fine?
Thanks. I clean up alright. I’ve recently started work on my winter beard though, what I like to think of as a new annual tradition, so I’m getting more scraggly, less “cleaned-up.” Also, Dan likes to try to embarrass people. Have you seen the photo of him wearing the buffalo mask? It is pretty laughy. I think it is on facebook somewhere.
Anyway, I’ve had my problems with teaching and being in a classroom. It is an odd experience, and I haven’t been crazy about it. Part of that is because I am teaching “business and technical writing”, something that is hard to get excited about and which I’ve been learning approximately 10 minutes or so before I “teach” it to my students. It is getting better though. I think I’m doing alright. Who knows.
3. I still have that ‘I Love Jesus’ notepad that I pulled off of your themed table at last year’s AWP conference. Do you have any ideas for what crazy theme you’ll adopt this year for the table? If you can’t answer that question, feel free to talk shit about Narrative Magazine.
The way everything came together for our table last year was kind of like that movie the Perfect Storm. Though I’m not sure if I was Marky Mark or Clooney; who Elizabeth was. No ideas at the moment, least none that I’m going to reveal now. That shit’s gotta be a surprise! The funny thing that I hadn’t really anticipated last year were the people walking by who were genuinely turned off by our rotating theme of Star Wars, High School Musical, and My Little Pony. You could practically see them put their nose in the air, walking with a stick up their ass. I think we just assumed everyone would think it was as awesome as we did but then I realized it was working perfect because the people who didn’t enjoy the decorations probably wouldn’t enjoy Hobart anyway, so eff ’em. And it worked the other way: if the table drew you in, you’d probably dig the journal.
I don’t like Narrative. That’s all the shit I got though.
4. You’re known for your wonderful taste in all sorts of alcohol, especially bourbon. What’s your favorite and why? How can your fans help you out?
Bourbon is kind of like God’s nectar. Or, something. It’s delicious is what I mean. What I learned when I toured bourbon country in Kentucky was that there are some very specific rules about what does and doesn’t make a bourbon and, I think, because of those rules and how limiting they are, I really like pretty much every bourbon I’ve had. Even the cheap shit is good. I usually buy Jim Beam Black, which is probably my fave. If I have less money in my pocket, I forego the “Black” and buy the regular Beam. Though sometimes I’ll rock Maker’s which is also delicious and had maybe the coolest distillery and also our tour guide was really cute who I think both Elizabeth and I had a little crush on, which seemed to only make their bourbon that much tastier. We also toured this place, Buffalo Trace, which I was a big fan for combining two of my favorite things: bourbon and buffalo.
How can fans help me out? Other than buying me drinks if and when we hang out, such as at AWP?
Yes. Exactly.
Fans should help out Aaron Burch by buying him drinks if and when they hang out with him.
Tags: Aaron Burch, dan wickett, hobart, Jim Beam
My grandfather carries with him wherever he goes a big plastic bottle of Ten High bourbon with which he will make his customary glass of bourbon and ginger. I myself enjoy Old Grandad.
My grandfather carries with him wherever he goes a big plastic bottle of Ten High bourbon with which he will make his customary glass of bourbon and ginger. I myself enjoy Old Grandad.
My grandfather carries with him wherever he goes a big plastic bottle of Ten High bourbon with which he will make his customary glass of bourbon and ginger. I myself enjoy Old Grandad.
buying aaron drinks is more than buying other people drinks
i dont know why.
the beard?
buying aaron drinks is more than buying other people drinks
i dont know why.
the beard?
buying aaron drinks is more than buying other people drinks
i dont know why.
the beard?
wtf is wrong with being aggressive. jesus fucking christ.
bourbon is gross. irish whiskey so much tastier.
what cigars does aaron smoke. you forgot that question.
i will send him a cigar or two if i know what is agreeable with his palette.
wtf is wrong with being aggressive. jesus fucking christ.
bourbon is gross. irish whiskey so much tastier.
what cigars does aaron smoke. you forgot that question.
i will send him a cigar or two if i know what is agreeable with his palette.
wtf is wrong with being aggressive. jesus fucking christ.
bourbon is gross. irish whiskey so much tastier.
what cigars does aaron smoke. you forgot that question.
i will send him a cigar or two if i know what is agreeable with his palette.
I like Makers, too.
What about Jack Daniels? Is that a bourbon?
I like Makers, too.
What about Jack Daniels? Is that a bourbon?
I like Makers, too.
What about Jack Daniels? Is that a bourbon?
fuck both of you for not liking narrative magazine.
aaron:
why didnt you tell them about the BURCH? you trying to keep it on the hush hush?
i never read narrative magazine.
fuck both of you for not liking narrative magazine.
aaron:
why didnt you tell them about the BURCH? you trying to keep it on the hush hush?
i never read narrative magazine.
fuck both of you for not liking narrative magazine.
aaron:
why didnt you tell them about the BURCH? you trying to keep it on the hush hush?
i never read narrative magazine.
i guess there is nothing wrong with being aggressive. i wanted to match aaron’s laidback tone, i think.
i emailed aaron about the cigars.
i dont think jack daniels is a bourban
i like makers
ilike anything
it is popular nowadays to not like narrative magazine – so, i am capitilzing on that.
i guess there is nothing wrong with being aggressive. i wanted to match aaron’s laidback tone, i think.
i emailed aaron about the cigars.
i dont think jack daniels is a bourban
i like makers
ilike anything
it is popular nowadays to not like narrative magazine – so, i am capitilzing on that.
i guess there is nothing wrong with being aggressive. i wanted to match aaron’s laidback tone, i think.
i emailed aaron about the cigars.
i dont think jack daniels is a bourban
i like makers
ilike anything
it is popular nowadays to not like narrative magazine – so, i am capitilzing on that.
Someone should do an interview/taste test with Aaron focusing just on Whisky. I would like to hear him describe the various brands.
On a side note: I once played ping pong with Aaron for a long time. I am writing a novella about that.
Someone should do an interview/taste test with Aaron focusing just on Whisky. I would like to hear him describe the various brands.
On a side note: I once played ping pong with Aaron for a long time. I am writing a novella about that.
Someone should do an interview/taste test with Aaron focusing just on Whisky. I would like to hear him describe the various brands.
On a side note: I once played ping pong with Aaron for a long time. I am writing a novella about that.
Did you guys see the nasty comment left by Richard Bausch (I think it was the real richard bausch) on bb’s post about Narrative? Fascinating.
I loved the Maud Newton non-fiction thing they published, but in general I find them a bit safe. I wouldn’t say I hate them.
But Bausch tore them a new asshole. Or someone pretending to be him.
Did you guys see the nasty comment left by Richard Bausch (I think it was the real richard bausch) on bb’s post about Narrative? Fascinating.
I loved the Maud Newton non-fiction thing they published, but in general I find them a bit safe. I wouldn’t say I hate them.
But Bausch tore them a new asshole. Or someone pretending to be him.
Did you guys see the nasty comment left by Richard Bausch (I think it was the real richard bausch) on bb’s post about Narrative? Fascinating.
I loved the Maud Newton non-fiction thing they published, but in general I find them a bit safe. I wouldn’t say I hate them.
But Bausch tore them a new asshole. Or someone pretending to be him.
i like ping pong
yes i saw that bausch post
i like ping pong
yes i saw that bausch post
i like ping pong
yes i saw that bausch post
i suck as ping pong but i played competitive pool on the busch lite league ages ago.. i was 3 player but i beat my share of 6s
what is jack daniels if not bourbon? i think it is bourbon.
i suck as ping pong but i played competitive pool on the busch lite league ages ago.. i was 3 player but i beat my share of 6s
what is jack daniels if not bourbon? i think it is bourbon.
i suck as ping pong but i played competitive pool on the busch lite league ages ago.. i was 3 player but i beat my share of 6s
what is jack daniels if not bourbon? i think it is bourbon.
jack daniels is whiskey, i think. i think it has to do with the way it is made.
tenn whiskey versus kentucky bourbon: im sure wikipedia has some answers
jack daniels is whiskey, i think. i think it has to do with the way it is made.
tenn whiskey versus kentucky bourbon: im sure wikipedia has some answers
jack daniels is whiskey, i think. i think it has to do with the way it is made.
tenn whiskey versus kentucky bourbon: im sure wikipedia has some answers
jack isnt a bourbon, its a whiskey.
what is the link to the bausch thing. i wanna see it.
i won a ping pong tournment when i was in high school. actually it was a three event competition. ping pong, badminton mixed doubles, and indoor tennis… yeah i know. i was much cooler in high school.
aaron is very good at ping pong, though i’ve only played him when he was drunk, which means he is either better or worse when sober……
jack isnt a bourbon, its a whiskey.
what is the link to the bausch thing. i wanna see it.
i won a ping pong tournment when i was in high school. actually it was a three event competition. ping pong, badminton mixed doubles, and indoor tennis… yeah i know. i was much cooler in high school.
aaron is very good at ping pong, though i’ve only played him when he was drunk, which means he is either better or worse when sober……
jack isnt a bourbon, its a whiskey.
what is the link to the bausch thing. i wanna see it.
i won a ping pong tournment when i was in high school. actually it was a three event competition. ping pong, badminton mixed doubles, and indoor tennis… yeah i know. i was much cooler in high school.
aaron is very good at ping pong, though i’ve only played him when he was drunk, which means he is either better or worse when sober……
yes, everyone is right- it is whiskey not bourbon. wiki says it all.
barry played tennis?
yes, everyone is right- it is whiskey not bourbon. wiki says it all.
barry played tennis?
yes, everyone is right- it is whiskey not bourbon. wiki says it all.
barry played tennis?
ok i found the bausch post. i guess it wasnt him. the ‘real” bausch went on and said that he didnt post that and the things were untrue and that he was gonna involve the law or something…..
yes i used to play tennis. my gym teacher worked out this individual sports scholarhsip for me to a school in florida which i fucked up like a douche because i was 17 and didnt care about school. but i could play. i also boxed for a long time. lots of sports actually.
ok i found the bausch post. i guess it wasnt him. the ‘real” bausch went on and said that he didnt post that and the things were untrue and that he was gonna involve the law or something…..
yes i used to play tennis. my gym teacher worked out this individual sports scholarhsip for me to a school in florida which i fucked up like a douche because i was 17 and didnt care about school. but i could play. i also boxed for a long time. lots of sports actually.
ok i found the bausch post. i guess it wasnt him. the ‘real” bausch went on and said that he didnt post that and the things were untrue and that he was gonna involve the law or something…..
yes i used to play tennis. my gym teacher worked out this individual sports scholarhsip for me to a school in florida which i fucked up like a douche because i was 17 and didnt care about school. but i could play. i also boxed for a long time. lots of sports actually.
barry is also the tictactoe world champ.
barry is also the tictactoe world champ.
barry is also the tictactoe world champ.
hey all. awesome to see all the posts! i had a long reply in mind but don’t have the time now to post it. hopefully soon…
in the meantime, jack isn’t a bourbon because they flavor it. one of the rules of bourbon is that it can’t be flavored.
as far as cigars go, i don’t really smoke them enough to smoke a certain kind or have much of a preference. when i buy them, i often just go for something cheap but not the cheapest. the best i ever had were, cliche as it is, from cuba.
hey all. awesome to see all the posts! i had a long reply in mind but don’t have the time now to post it. hopefully soon…
in the meantime, jack isn’t a bourbon because they flavor it. one of the rules of bourbon is that it can’t be flavored.
as far as cigars go, i don’t really smoke them enough to smoke a certain kind or have much of a preference. when i buy them, i often just go for something cheap but not the cheapest. the best i ever had were, cliche as it is, from cuba.
hey all. awesome to see all the posts! i had a long reply in mind but don’t have the time now to post it. hopefully soon…
in the meantime, jack isn’t a bourbon because they flavor it. one of the rules of bourbon is that it can’t be flavored.
as far as cigars go, i don’t really smoke them enough to smoke a certain kind or have much of a preference. when i buy them, i often just go for something cheap but not the cheapest. the best i ever had were, cliche as it is, from cuba.
barry,
fuck you too bitch ass. blake said narrative is death. i took it literally.
jack daniels is almost identical to bourbon except they do some weird filtration process.
whiskey comes from ireland
whisky comes from scotland
there is no other places of origin.
barry,
fuck you too bitch ass. blake said narrative is death. i took it literally.
jack daniels is almost identical to bourbon except they do some weird filtration process.
whiskey comes from ireland
whisky comes from scotland
there is no other places of origin.
barry,
fuck you too bitch ass. blake said narrative is death. i took it literally.
jack daniels is almost identical to bourbon except they do some weird filtration process.
whiskey comes from ireland
whisky comes from scotland
there is no other places of origin.
aaron,
odds are it wasn’t really cuban unless the person gifting it is heavy into cigars.
email me your address, i will send you a couple cigars.
i smoke about 5-7 a day. i used to smoke around 10-12.
be warned though, i am extremely lazy so it will take me some time to get to the post office.
jdean33442@gmail.com
aaron,
odds are it wasn’t really cuban unless the person gifting it is heavy into cigars.
email me your address, i will send you a couple cigars.
i smoke about 5-7 a day. i used to smoke around 10-12.
be warned though, i am extremely lazy so it will take me some time to get to the post office.
jdean33442@gmail.com
aaron,
odds are it wasn’t really cuban unless the person gifting it is heavy into cigars.
email me your address, i will send you a couple cigars.
i smoke about 5-7 a day. i used to smoke around 10-12.
be warned though, i am extremely lazy so it will take me some time to get to the post office.
jdean33442@gmail.com
Wow, I didn’t see the real Bausch saying it wasn’t him and then being -uh- unhappy. Very weird. Who would do something like that? I guess the answer is, many people. I’m gonna go check that out.
Barry- better to fuck up at 17 than at 40. So my theory goes. I love tennis. And boxing (and all sports..almost…maybe not curling…) I stayed up til 1 on friday watching friday night fights. Have you ever read Joyce Carol Oates on boxing? She’s a FANATIC. I like her take on it.
I have no hard liquor in my house at this moment. Maybe I’ll change that and get bourbon. I went htrough a Pinch phase. Hangovers… I’m still feeling disgusted for how hammered I got on election night. Carried to bed at 9:30pm, woke up with a a bruised face. Fuck. I hate myself. I get anxious about stuff and then don’t eat and then drink..
The DR makes good cigars too! Romeo and Julieta- used to come just from Cuba, now comes from the DR, too- nice ones. I only smoke them once in awhile- playing cards, etc..
Wow, I didn’t see the real Bausch saying it wasn’t him and then being -uh- unhappy. Very weird. Who would do something like that? I guess the answer is, many people. I’m gonna go check that out.
Barry- better to fuck up at 17 than at 40. So my theory goes. I love tennis. And boxing (and all sports..almost…maybe not curling…) I stayed up til 1 on friday watching friday night fights. Have you ever read Joyce Carol Oates on boxing? She’s a FANATIC. I like her take on it.
I have no hard liquor in my house at this moment. Maybe I’ll change that and get bourbon. I went htrough a Pinch phase. Hangovers… I’m still feeling disgusted for how hammered I got on election night. Carried to bed at 9:30pm, woke up with a a bruised face. Fuck. I hate myself. I get anxious about stuff and then don’t eat and then drink..
The DR makes good cigars too! Romeo and Julieta- used to come just from Cuba, now comes from the DR, too- nice ones. I only smoke them once in awhile- playing cards, etc..
Wow, I didn’t see the real Bausch saying it wasn’t him and then being -uh- unhappy. Very weird. Who would do something like that? I guess the answer is, many people. I’m gonna go check that out.
Barry- better to fuck up at 17 than at 40. So my theory goes. I love tennis. And boxing (and all sports..almost…maybe not curling…) I stayed up til 1 on friday watching friday night fights. Have you ever read Joyce Carol Oates on boxing? She’s a FANATIC. I like her take on it.
I have no hard liquor in my house at this moment. Maybe I’ll change that and get bourbon. I went htrough a Pinch phase. Hangovers… I’m still feeling disgusted for how hammered I got on election night. Carried to bed at 9:30pm, woke up with a a bruised face. Fuck. I hate myself. I get anxious about stuff and then don’t eat and then drink..
The DR makes good cigars too! Romeo and Julieta- used to come just from Cuba, now comes from the DR, too- nice ones. I only smoke them once in awhile- playing cards, etc..
i always watch friday night fights. evander holyfield is the closest thing to a hero i have.
i always watch friday night fights. evander holyfield is the closest thing to a hero i have.
i always watch friday night fights. evander holyfield is the closest thing to a hero i have.
OK. I have a little more time on my hands, so…
footnotes:
1) I have never felt like punching any of the 7 people who have come to the Hobart table at AWP and said kind things about the journal.
2) I “administer” the Hobart web and miniboks websites, but any praise should really duly be snet toward their respective editors. Just keep that in mind when reading such badass stuff as the story up now by Lindsay Hunter or Mary Miller’s upcoming story collection BIG WORLD.
3) I don’t remember Ryan’s questions being agressive, nor that different from they appear now. I think he wanted me to shit on MFAs a little more, or maybe shit on the people who shit on them, and my response was just: later. Or maybe, like Ryan when typing the questions, I should have been drunk and more fun when answering them.
4) I included Ryan in the list of people with MFAs who have been in Hobart and who are writing awesome, unique (that’s kind of a lame word, eh?) stuff, but he must have felt modest and deleted it.
5) I think saying “I’ve had my problems with teaching” is a bit harsh, but whatever. I guess that’s how I put it at the time.
6) Unrelated to this interview, I had a long discussion/rant with somebody just yesterday abotu Narrative. I think what it comes down to is they seem to portray this sense that they were the “beginnings” of online lit, or at least they finally came and saved the day and made it legitimate. Instead, it seems like they ignored the cool shit happening and just published online the same boring stuff that has been published in boring journals in print for forever. I guess I avoided that as my answer because, as with everything, there are exceptions/
7) I didn’t mention the Burch because I thought being one part of a larger interview wasn’t big enough for it. Until there is an entire post devoted to the drink, everyone only gets teasing references from barry in blog replies.
8) I smoked the “Cuban” cigars in the Caribbean, so I felt like it was probably the real deal, though I don’t actually know my shit enough to not have been wrong.
OK. I have a little more time on my hands, so…
footnotes:
1) I have never felt like punching any of the 7 people who have come to the Hobart table at AWP and said kind things about the journal.
2) I “administer” the Hobart web and miniboks websites, but any praise should really duly be snet toward their respective editors. Just keep that in mind when reading such badass stuff as the story up now by Lindsay Hunter or Mary Miller’s upcoming story collection BIG WORLD.
3) I don’t remember Ryan’s questions being agressive, nor that different from they appear now. I think he wanted me to shit on MFAs a little more, or maybe shit on the people who shit on them, and my response was just: later. Or maybe, like Ryan when typing the questions, I should have been drunk and more fun when answering them.
4) I included Ryan in the list of people with MFAs who have been in Hobart and who are writing awesome, unique (that’s kind of a lame word, eh?) stuff, but he must have felt modest and deleted it.
5) I think saying “I’ve had my problems with teaching” is a bit harsh, but whatever. I guess that’s how I put it at the time.
6) Unrelated to this interview, I had a long discussion/rant with somebody just yesterday abotu Narrative. I think what it comes down to is they seem to portray this sense that they were the “beginnings” of online lit, or at least they finally came and saved the day and made it legitimate. Instead, it seems like they ignored the cool shit happening and just published online the same boring stuff that has been published in boring journals in print for forever. I guess I avoided that as my answer because, as with everything, there are exceptions/
7) I didn’t mention the Burch because I thought being one part of a larger interview wasn’t big enough for it. Until there is an entire post devoted to the drink, everyone only gets teasing references from barry in blog replies.
8) I smoked the “Cuban” cigars in the Caribbean, so I felt like it was probably the real deal, though I don’t actually know my shit enough to not have been wrong.
OK. I have a little more time on my hands, so…
footnotes:
1) I have never felt like punching any of the 7 people who have come to the Hobart table at AWP and said kind things about the journal.
2) I “administer” the Hobart web and miniboks websites, but any praise should really duly be snet toward their respective editors. Just keep that in mind when reading such badass stuff as the story up now by Lindsay Hunter or Mary Miller’s upcoming story collection BIG WORLD.
3) I don’t remember Ryan’s questions being agressive, nor that different from they appear now. I think he wanted me to shit on MFAs a little more, or maybe shit on the people who shit on them, and my response was just: later. Or maybe, like Ryan when typing the questions, I should have been drunk and more fun when answering them.
4) I included Ryan in the list of people with MFAs who have been in Hobart and who are writing awesome, unique (that’s kind of a lame word, eh?) stuff, but he must have felt modest and deleted it.
5) I think saying “I’ve had my problems with teaching” is a bit harsh, but whatever. I guess that’s how I put it at the time.
6) Unrelated to this interview, I had a long discussion/rant with somebody just yesterday abotu Narrative. I think what it comes down to is they seem to portray this sense that they were the “beginnings” of online lit, or at least they finally came and saved the day and made it legitimate. Instead, it seems like they ignored the cool shit happening and just published online the same boring stuff that has been published in boring journals in print for forever. I guess I avoided that as my answer because, as with everything, there are exceptions/
7) I didn’t mention the Burch because I thought being one part of a larger interview wasn’t big enough for it. Until there is an entire post devoted to the drink, everyone only gets teasing references from barry in blog replies.
8) I smoked the “Cuban” cigars in the Caribbean, so I felt like it was probably the real deal, though I don’t actually know my shit enough to not have been wrong.
aaron,
you should have been smoking graycliff in the caribbean. so good.
pr,
i smoke cigars from the DR silly. The R&J’s from cuba are way better though. sorry on that front.
aaron,
you should have been smoking graycliff in the caribbean. so good.
pr,
i smoke cigars from the DR silly. The R&J’s from cuba are way better though. sorry on that front.
aaron,
you should have been smoking graycliff in the caribbean. so good.
pr,
i smoke cigars from the DR silly. The R&J’s from cuba are way better though. sorry on that front.
I’ve smuggled cubans in from the caribbean and europe a few times. A bit nerve wracking- but its not like you go to jail for it. they take them away and then they fine you or something. i never got caught.
I sort of like aaron’s criticisms of narrative. But yes, there are exceptions- they have a nice one, a braver one, in there from time to time.
sam-
holyfield, yes. Boxing fascinates me.
I’ve smuggled cubans in from the caribbean and europe a few times. A bit nerve wracking- but its not like you go to jail for it. they take them away and then they fine you or something. i never got caught.
I sort of like aaron’s criticisms of narrative. But yes, there are exceptions- they have a nice one, a braver one, in there from time to time.
sam-
holyfield, yes. Boxing fascinates me.
I’ve smuggled cubans in from the caribbean and europe a few times. A bit nerve wracking- but its not like you go to jail for it. they take them away and then they fine you or something. i never got caught.
I sort of like aaron’s criticisms of narrative. But yes, there are exceptions- they have a nice one, a braver one, in there from time to time.
sam-
holyfield, yes. Boxing fascinates me.
Jereme- i knew you smoked sigars from the dr, too! I do sort of feel that the whole “cubans are better” is cause they are illegal. It makes them more exciting. I am a sucker for that sort of thinking too, hence my multiple smuggles. But I smoke them rarely. you are the expert.
are graycliff’s baheamian? I’ve been to some funky place called graycliff in the bahamas….
Jereme- i knew you smoked sigars from the dr, too! I do sort of feel that the whole “cubans are better” is cause they are illegal. It makes them more exciting. I am a sucker for that sort of thinking too, hence my multiple smuggles. But I smoke them rarely. you are the expert.
are graycliff’s baheamian? I’ve been to some funky place called graycliff in the bahamas….
Jereme- i knew you smoked sigars from the dr, too! I do sort of feel that the whole “cubans are better” is cause they are illegal. It makes them more exciting. I am a sucker for that sort of thinking too, hence my multiple smuggles. But I smoke them rarely. you are the expert.
are graycliff’s baheamian? I’ve been to some funky place called graycliff in the bahamas….
pr,
cuban does not mean better in terms of cigar. too many idiots buy into that. the R&J’s from the DR are from General cigar who makes shitty cigars in general.
The cuban brand is just better in this case.
That would be Graycliff. I am envious. I have not gone yet. The Graycliff Ambassador comes every year to the cigar lounge my friend owns and we have party times.
that guy is such a fucking lush.
he lit up a cigar on the flight from miami to la just because he wanted a few puffs. he pretended to not know english.
the guy shows up driving a rental and drinking a six pack. his defense was ‘what we can drink and drive in the Nassau”
pr,
cuban does not mean better in terms of cigar. too many idiots buy into that. the R&J’s from the DR are from General cigar who makes shitty cigars in general.
The cuban brand is just better in this case.
That would be Graycliff. I am envious. I have not gone yet. The Graycliff Ambassador comes every year to the cigar lounge my friend owns and we have party times.
that guy is such a fucking lush.
he lit up a cigar on the flight from miami to la just because he wanted a few puffs. he pretended to not know english.
the guy shows up driving a rental and drinking a six pack. his defense was ‘what we can drink and drive in the Nassau”
pr,
cuban does not mean better in terms of cigar. too many idiots buy into that. the R&J’s from the DR are from General cigar who makes shitty cigars in general.
The cuban brand is just better in this case.
That would be Graycliff. I am envious. I have not gone yet. The Graycliff Ambassador comes every year to the cigar lounge my friend owns and we have party times.
that guy is such a fucking lush.
he lit up a cigar on the flight from miami to la just because he wanted a few puffs. he pretended to not know english.
the guy shows up driving a rental and drinking a six pack. his defense was ‘what we can drink and drive in the Nassau”
ha! I love it about graycliff guy! I heart eccentrics. Honestly though? – seriously stuffy place (think palm beach), but I dug visiting it because it’s so old school and classic. Best place to go in nassau for food and rooms I think is compass point and this divey reggae place down the road from it. BTW- this was YEARS ago. Like, you-were-probably-playing-in a-sandbox-years ago. So what do I know.
I believe you about RnJs! You are the cigar man! But thanks for giving props to DR’s cigars. When I stop by my local cigar rolling place in the DR- it smells sooo nice. Two dudes there, rolling away some serious fresh shit. Yeah.
ha! I love it about graycliff guy! I heart eccentrics. Honestly though? – seriously stuffy place (think palm beach), but I dug visiting it because it’s so old school and classic. Best place to go in nassau for food and rooms I think is compass point and this divey reggae place down the road from it. BTW- this was YEARS ago. Like, you-were-probably-playing-in a-sandbox-years ago. So what do I know.
I believe you about RnJs! You are the cigar man! But thanks for giving props to DR’s cigars. When I stop by my local cigar rolling place in the DR- it smells sooo nice. Two dudes there, rolling away some serious fresh shit. Yeah.
ha! I love it about graycliff guy! I heart eccentrics. Honestly though? – seriously stuffy place (think palm beach), but I dug visiting it because it’s so old school and classic. Best place to go in nassau for food and rooms I think is compass point and this divey reggae place down the road from it. BTW- this was YEARS ago. Like, you-were-probably-playing-in a-sandbox-years ago. So what do I know.
I believe you about RnJs! You are the cigar man! But thanks for giving props to DR’s cigars. When I stop by my local cigar rolling place in the DR- it smells sooo nice. Two dudes there, rolling away some serious fresh shit. Yeah.
my friend knows the fuente family. they own quite a bit in the DR. He called Carlito Fuente and had him wish my happy birthday on my 30th. It was nice.
I enjoy how i hijack any and all threads.
fear me.
i am aggressive.
my friend knows the fuente family. they own quite a bit in the DR. He called Carlito Fuente and had him wish my happy birthday on my 30th. It was nice.
I enjoy how i hijack any and all threads.
fear me.
i am aggressive.
my friend knows the fuente family. they own quite a bit in the DR. He called Carlito Fuente and had him wish my happy birthday on my 30th. It was nice.
I enjoy how i hijack any and all threads.
fear me.
i am aggressive.
good hijacking – i have not smoked a cigar in a whilei remember like the romeoyjulietaoi
maybe i felt overly like i had been too aggressive before iand had to make up for it or something
i felt modest also, so aaron caughtme
i did not realize that he would also read this interview
yeah, bourbon requires at least 51percent corn in the grain and no flavors are to be added (term straight bourbon, maybe?) – it the flavor, then, most comesfrom the white oak casks in which is it aged for at least two years
i am plagiarizing the rebel yell website, basically. i iwhs i had some now.
and yeah, i forgot to praise the other eds at hobart web and minibooks division, thanks for reminding aaron: it is elizabeth ellen and stephany aulenback and anyone else?
i like that take on narrative, actually. i had not ‘thought’ of it that way before
good hijacking – i have not smoked a cigar in a whilei remember like the romeoyjulietaoi
maybe i felt overly like i had been too aggressive before iand had to make up for it or something
i felt modest also, so aaron caughtme
i did not realize that he would also read this interview
yeah, bourbon requires at least 51percent corn in the grain and no flavors are to be added (term straight bourbon, maybe?) – it the flavor, then, most comesfrom the white oak casks in which is it aged for at least two years
i am plagiarizing the rebel yell website, basically. i iwhs i had some now.
and yeah, i forgot to praise the other eds at hobart web and minibooks division, thanks for reminding aaron: it is elizabeth ellen and stephany aulenback and anyone else?
i like that take on narrative, actually. i had not ‘thought’ of it that way before
good hijacking – i have not smoked a cigar in a whilei remember like the romeoyjulietaoi
maybe i felt overly like i had been too aggressive before iand had to make up for it or something
i felt modest also, so aaron caughtme
i did not realize that he would also read this interview
yeah, bourbon requires at least 51percent corn in the grain and no flavors are to be added (term straight bourbon, maybe?) – it the flavor, then, most comesfrom the white oak casks in which is it aged for at least two years
i am plagiarizing the rebel yell website, basically. i iwhs i had some now.
and yeah, i forgot to praise the other eds at hobart web and minibooks division, thanks for reminding aaron: it is elizabeth ellen and stephany aulenback and anyone else?
i like that take on narrative, actually. i had not ‘thought’ of it that way before
this is how i understand it:
whisky is whisky, except in america (tennessee) where it’s whiskey w/ an ‘e.’
bourbon (kentucky) has other ingredients which makes it spicier.
scotch whisky is simply ‘scotch’, the way you call brandy from cognac ‘cognac.’
my fave irish whisky is jameson; my fave bourbon is knob creek; my fave whiskey is jack; my fave scotch is glenmorangie. thank you for letting me talk about my alcoholism.
this is how i understand it:
whisky is whisky, except in america (tennessee) where it’s whiskey w/ an ‘e.’
bourbon (kentucky) has other ingredients which makes it spicier.
scotch whisky is simply ‘scotch’, the way you call brandy from cognac ‘cognac.’
my fave irish whisky is jameson; my fave bourbon is knob creek; my fave whiskey is jack; my fave scotch is glenmorangie. thank you for letting me talk about my alcoholism.
this is how i understand it:
whisky is whisky, except in america (tennessee) where it’s whiskey w/ an ‘e.’
bourbon (kentucky) has other ingredients which makes it spicier.
scotch whisky is simply ‘scotch’, the way you call brandy from cognac ‘cognac.’
my fave irish whisky is jameson; my fave bourbon is knob creek; my fave whiskey is jack; my fave scotch is glenmorangie. thank you for letting me talk about my alcoholism.
and then there is armagnac (sp?)
my favorite brandies are from Spain- Duque de Alba(sp?) and – this one ruins me- Cardenal Mendoza(sp?). We are sort of not allowed to buy Cardenal Mendoza. We fear death. We can never just have “one” or “three” and then –good lord. I think they are sherry based. I can’t remember. I’ve stayed away from it for- a year. Every winter…we cave in and get some and then regret it.
Also, Metaxa from Greece. Mmm.
Then there are the grappas from Italy- white stuff. Poire Williams, with the pear in it? Oh God. It’s not as bad as lighter fluid going down, but the next day?
But since we were talking about the DR and cigars and so on– Rum. From Haiti comes my favorite- Barbencourt. 4,8 and 15 yrs- maybe they have some other special ones, too. Then comes from the DR- Barcelo Imperial. And I got some Nicaraguan shit once that blew my mind. Honestly, we feel bad for prefering Haitain rum to DR rum. But Barbencourt is outrageous. Also- to talk lit cause we should, right?– Kathy Goes to Haiti by Kathy Acker- I imagined the whole time reading it that she was doing a the Barbencourt heir. It’s a great book.
Thank you Jimmy and everyone, for letting me talk hard stuff, while I sip my wine daintily.
and then there is armagnac (sp?)
my favorite brandies are from Spain- Duque de Alba(sp?) and – this one ruins me- Cardenal Mendoza(sp?). We are sort of not allowed to buy Cardenal Mendoza. We fear death. We can never just have “one” or “three” and then –good lord. I think they are sherry based. I can’t remember. I’ve stayed away from it for- a year. Every winter…we cave in and get some and then regret it.
Also, Metaxa from Greece. Mmm.
Then there are the grappas from Italy- white stuff. Poire Williams, with the pear in it? Oh God. It’s not as bad as lighter fluid going down, but the next day?
But since we were talking about the DR and cigars and so on– Rum. From Haiti comes my favorite- Barbencourt. 4,8 and 15 yrs- maybe they have some other special ones, too. Then comes from the DR- Barcelo Imperial. And I got some Nicaraguan shit once that blew my mind. Honestly, we feel bad for prefering Haitain rum to DR rum. But Barbencourt is outrageous. Also- to talk lit cause we should, right?– Kathy Goes to Haiti by Kathy Acker- I imagined the whole time reading it that she was doing a the Barbencourt heir. It’s a great book.
Thank you Jimmy and everyone, for letting me talk hard stuff, while I sip my wine daintily.
and then there is armagnac (sp?)
my favorite brandies are from Spain- Duque de Alba(sp?) and – this one ruins me- Cardenal Mendoza(sp?). We are sort of not allowed to buy Cardenal Mendoza. We fear death. We can never just have “one” or “three” and then –good lord. I think they are sherry based. I can’t remember. I’ve stayed away from it for- a year. Every winter…we cave in and get some and then regret it.
Also, Metaxa from Greece. Mmm.
Then there are the grappas from Italy- white stuff. Poire Williams, with the pear in it? Oh God. It’s not as bad as lighter fluid going down, but the next day?
But since we were talking about the DR and cigars and so on– Rum. From Haiti comes my favorite- Barbencourt. 4,8 and 15 yrs- maybe they have some other special ones, too. Then comes from the DR- Barcelo Imperial. And I got some Nicaraguan shit once that blew my mind. Honestly, we feel bad for prefering Haitain rum to DR rum. But Barbencourt is outrageous. Also- to talk lit cause we should, right?– Kathy Goes to Haiti by Kathy Acker- I imagined the whole time reading it that she was doing a the Barbencourt heir. It’s a great book.
Thank you Jimmy and everyone, for letting me talk hard stuff, while I sip my wine daintily.
actually, you have it in reverse. bourbon can’t have anything extra added to it. whiskey can. i like wild turkey myself. the tour there was badass, i.e. totally low key and unpretentious. unlike narrative. what?
actually, you have it in reverse. bourbon can’t have anything extra added to it. whiskey can. i like wild turkey myself. the tour there was badass, i.e. totally low key and unpretentious. unlike narrative. what?
actually, you have it in reverse. bourbon can’t have anything extra added to it. whiskey can. i like wild turkey myself. the tour there was badass, i.e. totally low key and unpretentious. unlike narrative. what?
i did not expect this to become a discussion of alcohol
it is refreshing
yeah, the law is bourbon can have nothing added to it, it gets its flavor from the white oak (charred) casks taht its aged in
i already said that i realize
i did not expect this to become a discussion of alcohol
it is refreshing
yeah, the law is bourbon can have nothing added to it, it gets its flavor from the white oak (charred) casks taht its aged in
i already said that i realize
i did not expect this to become a discussion of alcohol
it is refreshing
yeah, the law is bourbon can have nothing added to it, it gets its flavor from the white oak (charred) casks taht its aged in
i already said that i realize
anytime aaron’s involved in a conversation it’s a discussion of alcohol. obviously. heh.
anytime aaron’s involved in a conversation it’s a discussion of alcohol. obviously. heh.
anytime aaron’s involved in a conversation it’s a discussion of alcohol. obviously. heh.
fuck all your overpriced foreign bullshit.
i rather smoke a black and mild and drink cans of keystone
what about tic tac toe what about it
fuck all your overpriced foreign bullshit.
i rather smoke a black and mild and drink cans of keystone
what about tic tac toe what about it
fuck all your overpriced foreign bullshit.
i rather smoke a black and mild and drink cans of keystone
what about tic tac toe what about it
Oh, Barry. You played tennis! Do you know how much that makes me love you?
my favorite strategy for making friends in the playground was to show up with a coors tall boy in a paper bag, straw stuck in. i made about zero friends that way. i love sucking beer out of can with a straw, the crinkle of the brown paper bag. Ahhh. Sweet memories. I don’t leave my house enough to do that anymore.
And my favorite? You know those gels like purex and shit? Next time you’re stuck in jail for drunk and disorderly, suck that crap down (next to the crapper) and you’ll stave off your hangover. All booze is good. Foreign, cheap, us- whatever. I guess actually purex is not good. But hey! I’m trying to be egalitarian. Love all humans and their booze moments.
Then again, when I was ten, I smoked tea bags I stole from my mom. I’d smoke my own finger naol clippings if I thought it would get me buzzed.
Barry, play tennis with me.
Oh, Barry. You played tennis! Do you know how much that makes me love you?
my favorite strategy for making friends in the playground was to show up with a coors tall boy in a paper bag, straw stuck in. i made about zero friends that way. i love sucking beer out of can with a straw, the crinkle of the brown paper bag. Ahhh. Sweet memories. I don’t leave my house enough to do that anymore.
And my favorite? You know those gels like purex and shit? Next time you’re stuck in jail for drunk and disorderly, suck that crap down (next to the crapper) and you’ll stave off your hangover. All booze is good. Foreign, cheap, us- whatever. I guess actually purex is not good. But hey! I’m trying to be egalitarian. Love all humans and their booze moments.
Then again, when I was ten, I smoked tea bags I stole from my mom. I’d smoke my own finger naol clippings if I thought it would get me buzzed.
Barry, play tennis with me.
Oh, Barry. You played tennis! Do you know how much that makes me love you?
my favorite strategy for making friends in the playground was to show up with a coors tall boy in a paper bag, straw stuck in. i made about zero friends that way. i love sucking beer out of can with a straw, the crinkle of the brown paper bag. Ahhh. Sweet memories. I don’t leave my house enough to do that anymore.
And my favorite? You know those gels like purex and shit? Next time you’re stuck in jail for drunk and disorderly, suck that crap down (next to the crapper) and you’ll stave off your hangover. All booze is good. Foreign, cheap, us- whatever. I guess actually purex is not good. But hey! I’m trying to be egalitarian. Love all humans and their booze moments.
Then again, when I was ten, I smoked tea bags I stole from my mom. I’d smoke my own finger naol clippings if I thought it would get me buzzed.
Barry, play tennis with me.
black and mild.
black and mild.
black and mild.
when i was a kid i walked six miles to the hardware store and bought a bag of rat poison pellets and crushed them up in my koolaid and drank it. i was fucked up for a day and a half.
purex? the laundry soap?
i will play tennis with you after we play tic tac toe.
when i was a kid i walked six miles to the hardware store and bought a bag of rat poison pellets and crushed them up in my koolaid and drank it. i was fucked up for a day and a half.
purex? the laundry soap?
i will play tennis with you after we play tic tac toe.
when i was a kid i walked six miles to the hardware store and bought a bag of rat poison pellets and crushed them up in my koolaid and drank it. i was fucked up for a day and a half.
purex? the laundry soap?
i will play tennis with you after we play tic tac toe.
jimmy could get punched in his soft head speaking of irish/scotch like that. he should be careful. some patriotic lushes take that shit seriously. i have a neat book i stole from borders about 10 years ago called ‘the whisk(e)y bible’. it is small and black and embossed.
barry,
black and mild consists of metal shavings and styrofoam. it is not considered a cigar. i enjoy all the ‘bad ass’ bikers who come rambling into the cigar lounge and leave with ‘juicy lucy’ or ‘pimp stick’ flavored “cigars”. we make fun of them to no end at my shop.
pr,
you haven’t seen god until you slurped down some listerine to get drunk.
jimmy could get punched in his soft head speaking of irish/scotch like that. he should be careful. some patriotic lushes take that shit seriously. i have a neat book i stole from borders about 10 years ago called ‘the whisk(e)y bible’. it is small and black and embossed.
barry,
black and mild consists of metal shavings and styrofoam. it is not considered a cigar. i enjoy all the ‘bad ass’ bikers who come rambling into the cigar lounge and leave with ‘juicy lucy’ or ‘pimp stick’ flavored “cigars”. we make fun of them to no end at my shop.
pr,
you haven’t seen god until you slurped down some listerine to get drunk.
i grew up on a tobacco field, but thanks for the input.
i grew up on a tobacco field, but thanks for the input.
Barry Graham vs Barry Hannah in a tennis match=The Tennis Handsome.
My Fave whiskey–Knob Creek.
I also want to mention that another reason Hobart rules is because they have really cool art.
Barry Graham vs Barry Hannah in a tennis match=The Tennis Handsome.
My Fave whiskey–Knob Creek.
I also want to mention that another reason Hobart rules is because they have really cool art.
Barry Graham vs Barry Hannah in a tennis match=The Tennis Handsome.
My Fave whiskey–Knob Creek.
I also want to mention that another reason Hobart rules is because they have really cool art.
barry,
i guess that makes you an asshole?
kevin,
i often think ‘hobo art’ when i think hobart.
it creates some fun mental images.
barry,
i guess that makes you an asshole?
kevin,
i often think ‘hobo art’ when i think hobart.
it creates some fun mental images.
barry,
i guess that makes you an asshole?
kevin,
i often think ‘hobo art’ when i think hobart.
it creates some fun mental images.
purell-
i keep trying to correct purex to purell the hand sanitizer and it won’t let me-
hmm-
i also was trying to add a link to butt hash- just to make the trajectory complete-
purell-
i keep trying to correct purex to purell the hand sanitizer and it won’t let me-
hmm-
i also was trying to add a link to butt hash- just to make the trajectory complete-
purell-
i keep trying to correct purex to purell the hand sanitizer and it won’t let me-
hmm-
i also was trying to add a link to butt hash- just to make the trajectory complete-
purell. now that makes sense. drinking purell makes much more sense to me. one time i took all the cliche things and put them all together: banana peels, rubber cement, nutmeg, nyquil, and rubbing alcohol, and mixed it with ham and bean soup and ate it. it didnt do anything but make my stomach hurt so i drank more nyquil until i threw up foam.
my ex girlfriend downed a bottle of robitussin and chased it with maui – blue and her mother had to take her to the hospital. ahhhhhhh. good times.
purell. now that makes sense. drinking purell makes much more sense to me. one time i took all the cliche things and put them all together: banana peels, rubber cement, nutmeg, nyquil, and rubbing alcohol, and mixed it with ham and bean soup and ate it. it didnt do anything but make my stomach hurt so i drank more nyquil until i threw up foam.
my ex girlfriend downed a bottle of robitussin and chased it with maui – blue and her mother had to take her to the hospital. ahhhhhhh. good times.
purell. now that makes sense. drinking purell makes much more sense to me. one time i took all the cliche things and put them all together: banana peels, rubber cement, nutmeg, nyquil, and rubbing alcohol, and mixed it with ham and bean soup and ate it. it didnt do anything but make my stomach hurt so i drank more nyquil until i threw up foam.
my ex girlfriend downed a bottle of robitussin and chased it with maui – blue and her mother had to take her to the hospital. ahhhhhhh. good times.
i love it. “ahhhhhh. good times.” I heart barry-
google “butt hash”, or maybe you know what it is. i couldn’t get the link in here. you’ll never feel bad about anything dumb you did again.
i love it. “ahhhhhh. good times.” I heart barry-
google “butt hash”, or maybe you know what it is. i couldn’t get the link in here. you’ll never feel bad about anything dumb you did again.
i love it. “ahhhhhh. good times.” I heart barry-
google “butt hash”, or maybe you know what it is. i couldn’t get the link in here. you’ll never feel bad about anything dumb you did again.
also, if elizabeth ellen still is following this very digressed thread, i would like to personally ask her to submit a photo for boob friday. PLEASE!??!!??poor kendra needs some help.
also, if elizabeth ellen still is following this very digressed thread, i would like to personally ask her to submit a photo for boob friday. PLEASE!??!!??poor kendra needs some help.
also, if elizabeth ellen still is following this very digressed thread, i would like to personally ask her to submit a photo for boob friday. PLEASE!??!!??poor kendra needs some help.
i wanna try butt hash using cow shit and cat urine.
i wanna try butt hash using cow shit and cat urine.
i wanna try butt hash using cow shit and cat urine.
Black Friday Sales…
Once again, we come to the Holiday Season, a deeply religious time that each of us observes, in his own way, by going to the mall of his choice. -Dave Barry :o) Happy Holidays!…
Black Friday…
You can\’t have everything… where would you put it? – Steven Wright :o)…